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What do you mean by incorrect? The equation has to be valid, according to the rules. At some point I ended up with 2 + <x> + 8 = 1<y> where x = y because of mat

What do you mean by incorrect? The equation has to be valid, according to the rules. At some point I ended up with 2 + <x> + 8 = 1<y> where x = y because of math. I had 5 guesses left and 8 possibilities. That's just gambling without the money at that point.

capitainenemo 5y ago
I guess he means construct an entirely different equation without using 2, 8 and 1 (you had same issue as me BTW). I don't really enjoy that at all personally, but it is a thing one could do. I don't guess impossible words in Wordle either :)
- somethingAlex 5y ago
  Yeah I feel the same way. I want wordle to be about guessing words, not constructing some max entropy string within the constraints.
  - bmm6o 5y ago
    Sometimes it's what you need to do. If you know _IGHT, guessing the solution is not the best strategy since you get so little information each turn. You're much better off with FILMS or BLOWN, even if you know they can't be the solution.
    - macintux 5y ago
      Hard mode in Wordle precludes that option; after weeks in that mode in Wordle it would never occur to me to put an entirely bogus set of numbers into this.
      - bmm6o 5y ago
        I haven't played hard mode, but i imagine part of an optimal strategy is trying not to paint yourself into a corner like that. Just the other day, i had SHA_E and knew there were more possible solutions than i had turns left. I guessed MILKY to try 3 possibilities at once.
  - elondaits 5y ago
    I use that same strategy in Wordle. Most often my first word is SOARE and the second is MINTY… unless I got like three matches in the first word, it’s better to get extra data quickly.
    - wartijn_ 5y ago
      You should give hard mode a try. That makes it a lot less repetitive and more fun.
      - hvdijk 5y ago
        It's all fun until you get something like FIGHT where the last four letters are right and have to just guess from LIGHT, MIGHT, RIGHT, SIGHT, TIGHT, WIGHT, anything I might have missed, and there's no way to use any strategy and you just have to randomly guess and hope you guess right.
        bee_rider 5y ago
        This situation is technically possible, but I'd be surprised to already have 4/5 letters, and not have already tested R, S, L, or N (N from NIGHT). There are all one point scrabble letters after all. I could see myself needing to roll the dice on MIGHT, TIGHT, WIGHT.
        scatters 5y ago
        You can guess WARMS, which will either give you the answer (to input on the next try) or eliminate 4 of the possibilities, leaving only 2 to guess. That's a best case of 2 additional guesses and worst case of 3 (expectation of 2 1/3) which is better than your strategy, which has a best case of 1, worst case 6, expectation 3 1/2.
        PebblesRox 5y ago
        That's true for regular mode, but WARMS would be an invalid guess in hard mode once the last four letters have been established as IGHT.
econnors 5y ago
you can make guesses that you know won't be the correct answer but eliminate the other choices (i.e. don't include 2, 8, or 1 in your guesses)
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mminer237 5y ago
He means guess something like: 56+34=90 Then you can see which number turns purple or use 8 if none do.
piggybox 5y ago
Then you try to use those 8 possibilities (if not all) in the next round to eliminate some or most of them to quickly narrow down the scope of guessing

capitainenemo 5y ago

I guess he means construct an entirely different equation without using 2, 8 and 1 (you had same issue as me BTW). I don't really enjoy that at all personally, but it is a thing one could do. I don't guess impossible words in Wordle either :)

somethingAlex 5y ago
Yeah I feel the same way. I want wordle to be about guessing words, not constructing some max entropy string within the constraints.
- bmm6o 5y ago
  Sometimes it's what you need to do. If you know _IGHT, guessing the solution is not the best strategy since you get so little information each turn. You're much better off with FILMS or BLOWN, even if you know they can't be the solution.
  - macintux 5y ago
    Hard mode in Wordle precludes that option; after weeks in that mode in Wordle it would never occur to me to put an entirely bogus set of numbers into this.
    - bmm6o 5y ago
      I haven't played hard mode, but i imagine part of an optimal strategy is trying not to paint yourself into a corner like that. Just the other day, i had SHA_E and knew there were more possible solutions than i had turns left. I guessed MILKY to try 3 possibilities at once.
- elondaits 5y ago
  I use that same strategy in Wordle. Most often my first word is SOARE and the second is MINTY… unless I got like three matches in the first word, it’s better to get extra data quickly.
  - wartijn_ 5y ago
    You should give hard mode a try. That makes it a lot less repetitive and more fun.
    - hvdijk 5y ago
      It's all fun until you get something like FIGHT where the last four letters are right and have to just guess from LIGHT, MIGHT, RIGHT, SIGHT, TIGHT, WIGHT, anything I might have missed, and there's no way to use any strategy and you just have to randomly guess and hope you guess right.
      - bee_rider 5y ago
        This situation is technically possible, but I'd be surprised to already have 4/5 letters, and not have already tested R, S, L, or N (N from NIGHT). There are all one point scrabble letters after all. I could see myself needing to roll the dice on MIGHT, TIGHT, WIGHT.
      - scatters 5y ago
        You can guess WARMS, which will either give you the answer (to input on the next try) or eliminate 4 of the possibilities, leaving only 2 to guess. That's a best case of 2 additional guesses and worst case of 3 (expectation of 2 1/3) which is better than your strategy, which has a best case of 1, worst case 6, expectation 3 1/2.
        PebblesRox 5y ago
        That's true for regular mode, but WARMS would be an invalid guess in hard mode once the last four letters have been established as IGHT.

econnors 5y ago

you can make guesses that you know won't be the correct answer but eliminate the other choices (i.e. don't include 2, 8, or 1 in your guesses)

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mminer237 5y ago

He means guess something like: 56+34=90 Then you can see which number turns purple or use 8 if none do.

piggybox 5y ago

Then you try to use those 8 possibilities (if not all) in the next round to eliminate some or most of them to quickly narrow down the scope of guessing