> created by language amateurs > all of that is gone and they are still stuck with a subpar language The argument is that the language is "awful" and "subpar"

> created by language amateurs > all of that is gone and they are still stuck with a subpar language The argument is that the language is "awful" and "subpar" because it has "early decisions" like "multiple thousands of built-in" global functions introduced by "language amateurs"? Sorry, but I remain unconvinced. I agree that there are real reasons that PHP fails as a language in particular use cases, but it seems rare that those reasons get articulated in these threads.