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Also an Amazon tech manager. I confirm that this is also my experience. Managers don't like to put people into Focus or Pivot (unless the employee is absolute
by mistyislands 5y ago
Also an Amazon tech manager. I confirm that this is also my experience.
Managers don't like to put people into Focus or Pivot (unless the employee is absolutely terrible, which is rare). But we all have URA quotas to fill, mandated by HR.
This is absolutely terrible for team cohesion and morale; while also being the largest source of friction and inefficiency.
- slopirate 5y agoURA?
- mistyislands 5y agoUnRegretted Attrition.
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- allochthon 5y agoI'm curious why these practices continue despite what seem to be obvious deficiencies.
- mistyislands 5y agohard to say. probably the people who are high enough to make any change are too removed from the action to see the problems. maybe stories like this going viral will change things (companies do anything these days to avoid bad PR).
- steveBK123 5y agoAs soon as the C Suite has the same PIP / stack rank / % attrition forced, the policy will be ended.
- randomfool 5y agoVP level often has fairly high turnover, maybe that's where this originates from. In my experience at the VP level you have many highly skilled reports who are gunning for your job. Once you get the VP job then there may be many more enticing opportunities at other companies with just tough competition in the current position.
- aspenmayer 5y agoWhy stop at C suite? Stack rank the board of directors too for good measure, and do it by shareholder vote of confidence.
- ltfey 5y agoStack rank the board of directors too for good measure The only time stack ranking was a force for good was when the French applied it to their ruling elite in the 1790s.
- kerneis 5y agoI guess this was meant as a joke, but you may want to read about the reign of Terror and how it led people from all social classes to rat each other out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror See also how people had to get a "certificate of civism" lest them be considered suspect by default: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_civism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_civism
- mlac 5y agoI honestly had never even thought about where in the org it stops... But seriously, no CEO team would cut 10% of their executive committee each year. It would be a sign that they don't know how to properly vet candidates, and be terrible for morale and turnover...
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- ltfey 5y agoIt continues because we live under capitalism and the upper class wants to divide working people amongst themselves at all levels, because it keeps them on top. It really is that simple.