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One of the parties has been branded as the “Lockdown party” during covid. So long as there is a collective with the view that closing people’s businesses at any
by _skzr 5y ago
One of the parties has been branded as the “Lockdown party” during covid. So long as there is a collective with the view that closing people’s businesses at any given time, indefinitely, without recourse, is acceptable - we can expect an endless stream of voters rushing to the other side of the aisle.
Speak to right wingers and you’ll find that many will tell you they weren’t convinced by some right wing youTuber. It’s often the policy or rhetoric of the left that drove them away.
A specific example in 2021, lockdown policies of the left may have had a far more profound impact on pushing people away than any random guest on Joe Rogan.
- goalieca 5y agoLiberal values have been thoroughly rejected in favour of strong authoritarian measures. These policies often completely disregard decades of progressive policies. Lockdowns have definitely hurt nearly every major liberal issue and we don’t have much to show for it.
- whatshisface 5y agoThey should set up a big clock, like the national debt clock, that counts up the lives saved through various pandemic response techniques (subtracting actual from forecast deaths?).
- AlexTWithBeard 5y agoAgree. Add lives saved by various requirements. Subtract lives from increased traffic fatalities [1]. Multiply by the number of businesses decapitated by lockdowns. Do you know what we gonna end up with? I don't... [1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/car-crashes-fatality-rate-covid-19s-paradoxical-impact-road/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people...
- whatshisface 5y agoYou would not literally want to multiply by the number of business but I would be open to a dollar to life conversion made on the basis that you can spend money to feed people and perform medical services.
- chasd00 5y agoThat's nonsense. So pedestrian fatalities go down because everyone is trapped inside. Does that count as lives saved? If so then put a sentry in everyone's home and keep them there forever. Think of the lives saved!
- whatshisface 5y agoKeeping things grounded, fatalities prevented by a policy are indeed lives saved.
- AlexandrB 5y ago