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If Lex Fridman has a PhD in CS from MIT, MIT must be a joke

10 points by x0054 5y ago

I just listened to several CS heavy interviews with Lex and several guests. Knowing nothing about the host I would have assumed that he has no higher education at all, let alone a Ph.D. in CS from MIT. Am I wrong? As far as I am concerned he lucked out because someone got him into MIT and he lucked out the second time because he got on the Joe Rogan podcast. The rest is history. But I was just amazed how dumb the man sounds on his own podcast and the quality of guests he gets. I'll be honest, I am probably jealous, but damn, I almost think like his podcast has negative value. Every time his guests speaks I get smarter, every time he speaks I just get angry that someone this dumb got this lucky. Edit: Typo + It turns out that Lex actually has a PhD from Drexel University, not MIT, as pointed out by slater.

slater 5y ago
"hire" education, ey? /scnr edit: also, according to Wikipedia, he does not hold a PhD in CS from MIT. "Fridman was born in Moscow, and after moving to the United States he studied at Drexel University, where he received a B.S. (Bachelor of Science), M.S. (Master of Science), and a Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy)." shrug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Fridman#Early_life_and_education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Fridman#Early_life_and_edu...
- x0054 5y ago
  So, how does he claim to lecture at the MIT on Deep Learning? Does MIT just let anyone lecture about ML?
  - Jimmc414 5y ago
    MIT 6.S094: Introduction to Deep Learning and Self-Driving Cars (Fridman) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L0TKZQcUtA&t=39s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L0TKZQcUtA&t=39s
    - x0054 5y ago
      Is his lecture any good in your opinion? I scrubbed through several and all I got is him gushing vaguely about some actual ML researchers and stumbling over his own technical slides. What am I missing that this is somehow good enough for MIT?
  - zepto 5y ago
    He worked at MIT as a researcher.
- x0054 5y ago
  Thanks for pointing out. I was told by people that he has a PhD from MIT. I should have checked for my self.
zepto 5y ago
As far as I can tell, the complaint is that you don’t like the questions he asks. Do you have an example of one of his dumb questions or statements?
- x0054 5y ago
  No, the complain is that he basically doesn't understand what his guests are telling him so rather than asking a followup question or transition smoothly he just jumps around from question to question. Just listen for your self, it's obvious.
  - zepto 5y ago
    I don’t think it’s obvious. An alternative explanation is that he does understand and doesn’t feel the need to ask a follow up because he think the next question is more valuable to ask. My sense of him is that he is deliberately trying not to do a linear technical interview and is trying to get people out of the standard pattern so you get a feel for their humanity as well as their technical mastery. It would be easy to know what you are complaining about if you just provided an example. An episode number and time index would do.
    - x0054 5y ago
      The Jim Keller interview is a wonderful example, listen to the first one. I don't want to re-listen to pull out specific time codes. The first time I listened I was actually interested, I wasn't listening with intent to create time coded indictment of Lex. If you are regular listener and you like his show, I doubt you would ever agree with my take even if I offered you all the proof in the world, because ultimately it's subjective. I say he remains silent and switches topics because he is dumb, but clever enough to be a good bullshit artist. You want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
      - zepto 5y ago
        > I doubt you would ever agree with my take even if I offered you all the proof in the world You’ll never know if you don’t try. > I say he remains silent and switches topics because he is dumb Earlier you said this was obvious. Now it seems like you have no confidence that anyone but you can even tell. I will listen to some of the Jim Keller episode, but even some clue of where you got the impression from would help. Edit: I’m 30 minutes in. It’s a great podcast. Nothing obvious about what Lex is doing to make it worse.
hotpotamus 5y ago
Jared Kushner has a Bachelor's from Harvard, therefore Harvard must be a joke.
- x0054 5y ago
  Just because Jared Kushner is related to Trump, and Trump is a dumb ass, it doesn't necessarily make Jared dumb. That said, many people graduate from Harvard who shouldn't have due to family connections and money. So.... yeah, in some ways Harvard is kind of a joke. It's only hard to get in, not hard to graduate from.
  - hotpotamus 5y ago
    Oh I actually wasn't really trying to make a reference to Trump though it's somewhat unavoidable. Kushner was actually known for being a terrible legacy admission before Trump even announced his candidacy, and Kushner's stent as Chief Innovation Officer/Chief Nepotism Advisor to the Whitehouse sure didn't make him look much smarter.
  - hotpotamus 5y ago
    Also I meant to add that I agree with you regarding getting in vs graduating. That was my take away from the recent scandals. If anyone can get in via bribing their way onto a racquetball team or whatever and then graduate, it can't be that hard. Also from watching some of their courses, they do have world class teachers and I assume TA to student ratios that are enviable so I'm sure there is a quality education there too.
- Zigurd 5y ago
  Harvard has a high percentage of legacies. Kushner is one peg lower: a donor brat. For an undergrad program that is a bit sketch.
ksec 5y ago
The older I am, the more I am convinced academic achievement has little to zero correlation with wisdom. He may be good with the former and knowledgable in certain domain. But lacking on the latter. This is increasingly obvious in the modern world. Specialist taking over, generalist are devalued. Or may be generalist isn't a correct term, but some type of polymath.
gjvc 5y ago
I tried listening after hearing some hype and got instantly turned off by the vocal fry; when I got over that, I realised the questions weren't up much either.

10 points by x0054 5y ago

slater 5y ago

"hire" education, ey? /scnr edit: also, according to Wikipedia, he does not hold a PhD in CS from MIT. "Fridman was born in Moscow, and after moving to the United States he studied at Drexel University, where he received a B.S. (Bachelor of Science), M.S. (Master of Science), and a Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy)." shrug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Fridman#Early_life_and_education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Fridman#Early_life_and_edu...

x0054 5y ago
So, how does he claim to lecture at the MIT on Deep Learning? Does MIT just let anyone lecture about ML?
- Jimmc414 5y ago
  MIT 6.S094: Introduction to Deep Learning and Self-Driving Cars (Fridman) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L0TKZQcUtA&t=39s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L0TKZQcUtA&t=39s
  - x0054 5y ago
    Is his lecture any good in your opinion? I scrubbed through several and all I got is him gushing vaguely about some actual ML researchers and stumbling over his own technical slides. What am I missing that this is somehow good enough for MIT?
- zepto 5y ago
  He worked at MIT as a researcher.
x0054 5y ago
Thanks for pointing out. I was told by people that he has a PhD from MIT. I should have checked for my self.

zepto 5y ago

As far as I can tell, the complaint is that you don’t like the questions he asks. Do you have an example of one of his dumb questions or statements?

x0054 5y ago
No, the complain is that he basically doesn't understand what his guests are telling him so rather than asking a followup question or transition smoothly he just jumps around from question to question. Just listen for your self, it's obvious.
- zepto 5y ago
  I don’t think it’s obvious. An alternative explanation is that he does understand and doesn’t feel the need to ask a follow up because he think the next question is more valuable to ask. My sense of him is that he is deliberately trying not to do a linear technical interview and is trying to get people out of the standard pattern so you get a feel for their humanity as well as their technical mastery. It would be easy to know what you are complaining about if you just provided an example. An episode number and time index would do.
  - x0054 5y ago
    The Jim Keller interview is a wonderful example, listen to the first one. I don't want to re-listen to pull out specific time codes. The first time I listened I was actually interested, I wasn't listening with intent to create time coded indictment of Lex. If you are regular listener and you like his show, I doubt you would ever agree with my take even if I offered you all the proof in the world, because ultimately it's subjective. I say he remains silent and switches topics because he is dumb, but clever enough to be a good bullshit artist. You want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    - zepto 5y ago
      > I doubt you would ever agree with my take even if I offered you all the proof in the world You’ll never know if you don’t try. > I say he remains silent and switches topics because he is dumb Earlier you said this was obvious. Now it seems like you have no confidence that anyone but you can even tell. I will listen to some of the Jim Keller episode, but even some clue of where you got the impression from would help. Edit: I’m 30 minutes in. It’s a great podcast. Nothing obvious about what Lex is doing to make it worse.

hotpotamus 5y ago

Jared Kushner has a Bachelor's from Harvard, therefore Harvard must be a joke.

x0054 5y ago
Just because Jared Kushner is related to Trump, and Trump is a dumb ass, it doesn't necessarily make Jared dumb. That said, many people graduate from Harvard who shouldn't have due to family connections and money. So.... yeah, in some ways Harvard is kind of a joke. It's only hard to get in, not hard to graduate from.
- hotpotamus 5y ago
  Oh I actually wasn't really trying to make a reference to Trump though it's somewhat unavoidable. Kushner was actually known for being a terrible legacy admission before Trump even announced his candidacy, and Kushner's stent as Chief Innovation Officer/Chief Nepotism Advisor to the Whitehouse sure didn't make him look much smarter.
- hotpotamus 5y ago
  Also I meant to add that I agree with you regarding getting in vs graduating. That was my take away from the recent scandals. If anyone can get in via bribing their way onto a racquetball team or whatever and then graduate, it can't be that hard. Also from watching some of their courses, they do have world class teachers and I assume TA to student ratios that are enviable so I'm sure there is a quality education there too.
Zigurd 5y ago
Harvard has a high percentage of legacies. Kushner is one peg lower: a donor brat. For an undergrad program that is a bit sketch.

ksec 5y ago

The older I am, the more I am convinced academic achievement has little to zero correlation with wisdom. He may be good with the former and knowledgable in certain domain. But lacking on the latter. This is increasingly obvious in the modern world. Specialist taking over, generalist are devalued. Or may be generalist isn't a correct term, but some type of polymath.

gjvc 5y ago

I tried listening after hearing some hype and got instantly turned off by the vocal fry; when I got over that, I realised the questions weren't up much either.