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I've become conditioned to react to Firefox version announcements with 'I wonder how Mozilla has screwed up the browser this time'. Either by introducing useles

I've become conditioned to react to Firefox version announcements with 'I wonder how Mozilla has screwed up the browser this time'. Either by introducing useless features or by removing options I considered useful. I hope I'm wrong this time.

jimmygrapes 5y ago
I usually expect some relatively insignificant but highly maligned UI adjustment, like adding an extra pixel or two of padding or bouncing back and forth between rounded and square cornered tabs. After one of the more egregious changes awhile back I modified some thing (I don't even remember what it was anymore) and it's been fine since, but I still expect something to change every time.
sovnade 5y ago
This one seems to be mostly performance related with no/few functional changes.
legofr 5y ago
They had a couple big blunders with the ugly border/expansion when clicking the address bar, and "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order".. both of these things should have never been the default (or at least we should've been given the option to select a default when they were first added, similar to what they did with the new color theme support), but besides that then I can't think of anything terrible and always happy to see new updates. I would especially love to see deeper integration with their Multi-Account Containers add-on, e.g. allow us to tell a bookmark to open in X container, or allow us to always open X container based on URL path instead of just domain name.
- mynameismon 5y ago
  > and "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order".. both of these things should have never been the default Personally, Ctrl+Tab-bing cycling through tabs in most recently used order is greatly useful. Maybe its just me, but everytime I go back to Edge or Chrome, it becomes painful to the point I have to use the mouse for moving through tabs.
  - legofr 5y ago
    I think you can compare it to "natural scrolling" - imagine if an operating system suddenly flipped the default scrolling direction without even presenting a dialog where you could choose your preferred option. > everytime I go back to Edge or Chrome, it becomes painful to the point I have to use the mouse for moving through tabs Sometimes I worry if that's exactly what they hoped would happen, similar to how Windows/Linux users often hate using a MacOS keyboard layout and vice versa.. but hopefully that isn't the case, especially because I can't think of any other software where you don't cycle through the tabs in their located order.
    - mynameismon 5y ago
      > Sometimes I worry if that's exactly what they hoped would happen, similar to how Windows/Linux users often hate using a MacOS keyboard layout and vice versa Well, think of it this way: In what order do windows appear when you Alt-Tab through them? Surely its not the order in which they are located on your taskbar?
- codethief 5y ago
  > but besides that then I can't think of anything terrible How about stuff getting removed from the right-click / context menu, e.g. "page information" or "site information" (or whatever it used to be called in English)? How about no longer being able to remove specific (i.e. single) cookies? How about no longer being able to install arbitrary extensions? I've been using Firefox for almost two decades now and have generally liked it a lot but GP has a point: The fact that the Mozilla devs have repeatedly removed (or at least hidden) more advanced features really is annoying.
  - mixmastamyk 5y ago
    The ridiculous tabs that look like buttons for no good reason is my recent pet peeve.
- GreenWatermelon 5y ago
  I'm still traumatized from the time they broke all and I mean ALL extensions. I've only gotten back ti using Firefox very recently because I have an issue where chrome keeps hibernating, and nothing short if a complete restart of my computer fixes it.

jimmygrapes 5y ago

I usually expect some relatively insignificant but highly maligned UI adjustment, like adding an extra pixel or two of padding or bouncing back and forth between rounded and square cornered tabs. After one of the more egregious changes awhile back I modified some thing (I don't even remember what it was anymore) and it's been fine since, but I still expect something to change every time.

sovnade 5y ago

This one seems to be mostly performance related with no/few functional changes.

legofr 5y ago

They had a couple big blunders with the ugly border/expansion when clicking the address bar, and "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order".. both of these things should have never been the default (or at least we should've been given the option to select a default when they were first added, similar to what they did with the new color theme support), but besides that then I can't think of anything terrible and always happy to see new updates. I would especially love to see deeper integration with their Multi-Account Containers add-on, e.g. allow us to tell a bookmark to open in X container, or allow us to always open X container based on URL path instead of just domain name.

mynameismon 5y ago
> and "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order".. both of these things should have never been the default Personally, Ctrl+Tab-bing cycling through tabs in most recently used order is greatly useful. Maybe its just me, but everytime I go back to Edge or Chrome, it becomes painful to the point I have to use the mouse for moving through tabs.
- legofr 5y ago
  I think you can compare it to "natural scrolling" - imagine if an operating system suddenly flipped the default scrolling direction without even presenting a dialog where you could choose your preferred option. > everytime I go back to Edge or Chrome, it becomes painful to the point I have to use the mouse for moving through tabs Sometimes I worry if that's exactly what they hoped would happen, similar to how Windows/Linux users often hate using a MacOS keyboard layout and vice versa.. but hopefully that isn't the case, especially because I can't think of any other software where you don't cycle through the tabs in their located order.
  - mynameismon 5y ago
    > Sometimes I worry if that's exactly what they hoped would happen, similar to how Windows/Linux users often hate using a MacOS keyboard layout and vice versa Well, think of it this way: In what order do windows appear when you Alt-Tab through them? Surely its not the order in which they are located on your taskbar?
codethief 5y ago
> but besides that then I can't think of anything terrible How about stuff getting removed from the right-click / context menu, e.g. "page information" or "site information" (or whatever it used to be called in English)? How about no longer being able to remove specific (i.e. single) cookies? How about no longer being able to install arbitrary extensions? I've been using Firefox for almost two decades now and have generally liked it a lot but GP has a point: The fact that the Mozilla devs have repeatedly removed (or at least hidden) more advanced features really is annoying.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  The ridiculous tabs that look like buttons for no good reason is my recent pet peeve.
GreenWatermelon 5y ago
I'm still traumatized from the time they broke all and I mean ALL extensions. I've only gotten back ti using Firefox very recently because I have an issue where chrome keeps hibernating, and nothing short if a complete restart of my computer fixes it.