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Asking hners to enable JavaScript is dangerous. Many here are anti JavaScript.

reincarnate0x14 5y ago
It's less "anti Javascript" and more against "it's a great idea to base the entire web around loading completely unverifiable and uncontrolled executable code from anywhere in the universe." Javascript is a reasonably nice language for what it does, and if it was all still mostly inline or browser managed packages or whatever the modern ecosystem would likely be significantly less of a user-hostile dumpster fire.
Cybergenik 5y ago
my bad, it's a Gatsby site. Need JS :/
- bahador 5y ago
  You did nothing wrong. No need to apologize.
  - fake-name 5y ago
    Using a site generation framework that requires JS to render static text is doing something wrong.
    - skeeter2020 5y ago
      you get to vote with your eyes and attention; if you truly want to advance your position come up with a better approach to convincing the rest of us. If your comment was a drive-by sniping that made you feel good and has by now left your attention, mission accomplished.
    - bahador 5y ago
      This is what I meant by "dangerous". Static sites can do more than render text. Even collapsing comments on HN doesn't work with JavaScript disabled.
      - Arnavion 5y ago
        Rendering the primary text content and being able to collapse comments are not on the same level of functionality. (Though for this particular website, I can see the text just fine with JS disabled in firefox, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for CaliforniaKarl.)
      - FabHK 5y ago
        > Even collapsing comments on HN doesn't work with JavaScript disabled. But everything else pretty much does. HN is nice in that one can read it (and comment) without JS.
    - kyawzazaw 5y ago
      It is a student making an easy blog. Chill out.
      - exdsq 5y ago
        Exactly right
    - erik_seaberg 5y ago
      https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/reference/rendering-options/server-side-rendering/ https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/reference/rendering-options/se... says they support HTML, though some of their own docs like https://www.gatsbyjs.com/pricing/ https://www.gatsbyjs.com/pricing/ and https://www.gatsbyjs.com/dashboard/signup https://www.gatsbyjs.com/dashboard/signup are broken.
- jaclaz 5y ago
  I read your post in QTweb, Javascript disabled, just fine, so it must be something else.
- FabHK 5y ago
  Site renders fine for me in Safari on MacOS with JS disabled.
1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
Like millions of others, this site looks great in a text-only browser that has no Javascript support.^1 If automatically running other peoples' Javascript or some other "feature" of a popular browser^2 is preventing someone from viewing the text, and the only way to avoid this annoyance is to disable the feature, then the problem is not necessary the feature, but how the feature is being used. People who disable or avoid the feature are not necessary anti-[feature]. They are trying to avoid the effects of how that feature is being used by web developers. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) 2. Chrome, Safari, Edge, Brave, Firefox and so on.

It's less "anti Javascript" and more against "it's a great idea to base the entire web around loading completely unverifiable and uncontrolled executable code from anywhere in the universe." Javascript is a reasonably nice language for what it does, and if it was all still mostly inline or browser managed packages or whatever the modern ecosystem would likely be significantly less of a user-hostile dumpster fire.

Cybergenik 5y ago

my bad, it's a Gatsby site. Need JS :/

bahador 5y ago
You did nothing wrong. No need to apologize.
- fake-name 5y ago
  Using a site generation framework that requires JS to render static text is doing something wrong.
  - skeeter2020 5y ago
    you get to vote with your eyes and attention; if you truly want to advance your position come up with a better approach to convincing the rest of us. If your comment was a drive-by sniping that made you feel good and has by now left your attention, mission accomplished.
  - bahador 5y ago
    This is what I meant by "dangerous". Static sites can do more than render text. Even collapsing comments on HN doesn't work with JavaScript disabled.
    - Arnavion 5y ago
      Rendering the primary text content and being able to collapse comments are not on the same level of functionality. (Though for this particular website, I can see the text just fine with JS disabled in firefox, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for CaliforniaKarl.)
    - FabHK 5y ago
      > Even collapsing comments on HN doesn't work with JavaScript disabled. But everything else pretty much does. HN is nice in that one can read it (and comment) without JS.
  - kyawzazaw 5y ago
    It is a student making an easy blog. Chill out.
    - exdsq 5y ago
      Exactly right
  - erik_seaberg 5y ago
    https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/reference/rendering-options/server-side-rendering/ https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/reference/rendering-options/se... says they support HTML, though some of their own docs like https://www.gatsbyjs.com/pricing/ https://www.gatsbyjs.com/pricing/ and https://www.gatsbyjs.com/dashboard/signup https://www.gatsbyjs.com/dashboard/signup are broken.
jaclaz 5y ago
I read your post in QTweb, Javascript disabled, just fine, so it must be something else.
FabHK 5y ago
Site renders fine for me in Safari on MacOS with JS disabled.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago

Like millions of others, this site looks great in a text-only browser that has no Javascript support.^1 If automatically running other peoples' Javascript or some other "feature" of a popular browser^2 is preventing someone from viewing the text, and the only way to avoid this annoyance is to disable the feature, then the problem is not necessary the feature, but how the feature is being used. People who disable or avoid the feature are not necessary anti-[feature]. They are trying to avoid the effects of how that feature is being used by web developers. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser) 2. Chrome, Safari, Edge, Brave, Firefox and so on.