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Someone tried this a while back and it didn't go so well: https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/03/02/recipeasly-food-bloggers-controversy/ https://www.washi

Someone tried this a while back and it didn't go so well: https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/03/02/recipeasly-food-bloggers-controversy/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/03/02/recipeasly-fo...

gamerDude 5y ago
Maybe keep ads so that the bloggers can keep their current revenue stream. As someone who loves this idea, all I care about is easy access to the recipe. Its ok with me to have not too intrusive ads.
- gamerDude 5y ago
  Or just move the recipe to the top and keep all the other content/ads below.
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metabagel 5y ago
This is an app, though, not a website. If I understand correctly, it’s just parsing the page for you. Edit: Oh, there is also a website.
toyg 5y ago
The site is back up, although it now seems to contain exclusively "free" recipes (i.e. coming from CC sites and old books). IMHO there are ways to make recipe-scraping resistant to copyright claims. 1. hide all scraping actions behind a login page; that makes content private, hence uninfringing. 2. every time a user "publishes" or shares content, present only an extract of the recipe, like the ingredients and first few steps; expanding the extract sends you to the original site (ideally to the specific anchor of the procedure).
- kixiQu 5y ago
  > private, hence uninfringing let me know how this goes for private torrent tracker sites
  - toyg 5y ago
    Private as in a single user getting stuff and saving it in their own account, not resharing anything. That's not infringement, or rss feed aggregators would be infringing too.
Hard_Space 5y ago
From the WP article: But it’s even more complex than that. The stories are personal. They’re cultural. They’re often told from the perspective of women, immigrants and people of color who have created and invested in a platform to share their stories. The recipe aggregator sites, bloggers note, basically tell the creators that their stories have no value. It’s the same message America has told immigrants and women for centuries, now just in electronic form. I think that may be taking it too far, particularly since Google effectively created this entire syndrome.
- renewiltord 5y ago
  I’ve got to be honest: those stories hold no value to me. That’s the truth. I don’t know why the WaPo wants those us who are like me to pretend otherwise.
  - pessimizer 5y ago
    It's weird how you go from "to me" to "wants us." Surely you can imagine that people might be interested in history and stories around food. I personally don't give a shit about mathematicians and scientists personal lives, but I don't have a problem imagining those who do. I think the numbers say it all. Others think that the examination of every detail of the person who wrote the numbers first might give them some insight into how to create more numbers.
    - renewiltord 5y ago
      In my experience, traditional English usage there would use context to replace "us" with "those of us like me". But since clearly that is not the case, I have replaced it so it is no longer 'weird' to you. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you polled recipe searchers, the vast majority (>66%) would say that they don't want the story. In fact, I'll back that. If you're in San Francisco, I will bet $1000 against your $1000 that this will be the case and we can equally bear the price of running this. An associate will contact you if you're up for it.
      - 5y ago
artursapek 5y ago
That guy had absolutely no conviction once he started getting called out. He did a complete 180 in the weakest way.
- tomredman 5y ago
  I mean, this is true. But it’s weird being in the center of that raging fire. We were worried about getting sued personally (there were lots of threats) and or having our family or work brought it into it. Lots of people tried to get me fired. In the moment, it just wasn’t a fight we wanted to fight.

gamerDude 5y ago

Maybe keep ads so that the bloggers can keep their current revenue stream. As someone who loves this idea, all I care about is easy access to the recipe. Its ok with me to have not too intrusive ads.

gamerDude 5y ago
Or just move the recipe to the top and keep all the other content/ads below.

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metabagel 5y ago

This is an app, though, not a website. If I understand correctly, it’s just parsing the page for you. Edit: Oh, there is also a website.

toyg 5y ago

The site is back up, although it now seems to contain exclusively "free" recipes (i.e. coming from CC sites and old books). IMHO there are ways to make recipe-scraping resistant to copyright claims. 1. hide all scraping actions behind a login page; that makes content private, hence uninfringing. 2. every time a user "publishes" or shares content, present only an extract of the recipe, like the ingredients and first few steps; expanding the extract sends you to the original site (ideally to the specific anchor of the procedure).

kixiQu 5y ago
> private, hence uninfringing let me know how this goes for private torrent tracker sites
- toyg 5y ago
  Private as in a single user getting stuff and saving it in their own account, not resharing anything. That's not infringement, or rss feed aggregators would be infringing too.

Hard_Space 5y ago

From the WP article: But it’s even more complex than that. The stories are personal. They’re cultural. They’re often told from the perspective of women, immigrants and people of color who have created and invested in a platform to share their stories. The recipe aggregator sites, bloggers note, basically tell the creators that their stories have no value. It’s the same message America has told immigrants and women for centuries, now just in electronic form. I think that may be taking it too far, particularly since Google effectively created this entire syndrome.

renewiltord 5y ago
I’ve got to be honest: those stories hold no value to me. That’s the truth. I don’t know why the WaPo wants those us who are like me to pretend otherwise.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  It's weird how you go from "to me" to "wants us." Surely you can imagine that people might be interested in history and stories around food. I personally don't give a shit about mathematicians and scientists personal lives, but I don't have a problem imagining those who do. I think the numbers say it all. Others think that the examination of every detail of the person who wrote the numbers first might give them some insight into how to create more numbers.
  - renewiltord 5y ago
    In my experience, traditional English usage there would use context to replace "us" with "those of us like me". But since clearly that is not the case, I have replaced it so it is no longer 'weird' to you. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you polled recipe searchers, the vast majority (>66%) would say that they don't want the story. In fact, I'll back that. If you're in San Francisco, I will bet $1000 against your $1000 that this will be the case and we can equally bear the price of running this. An associate will contact you if you're up for it.
    - 5y ago

artursapek 5y ago

That guy had absolutely no conviction once he started getting called out. He did a complete 180 in the weakest way.

tomredman 5y ago
I mean, this is true. But it’s weird being in the center of that raging fire. We were worried about getting sued personally (there were lots of threats) and or having our family or work brought it into it. Lots of people tried to get me fired. In the moment, it just wasn’t a fight we wanted to fight.