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This is the one extension I was really bummed to lose on Firefox for Android with the update last year where they started limiting installable extensions to a h

by nathcd 5y ago

This is the one extension I was really bummed to lose on Firefox for Android with the update last year where they started limiting installable extensions to a hand-selected group.

betwixthewires 5y ago
Not to pick on you, but why do you just take it? I was bummed to lose it on Firefox mobile as well, which is why I stopped using it and started using Kiwi browser. Kneecapping my tools and then telling me the other guys are worse does not fly with me, and it shouldn't fly with anyone.
- ghjklpoiuy 5y ago
  I only learned about it today. Sadly though it doeant sync with Firefox which on desktop is my primary browser
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    Well, there's another thing Firefox is doing wrong, it's got a tiny little feature sparse walled garden, when it should be using open standards. Question: I have never bothered syncing anything between browsers on different machines. What benefit would I get out of it if I decided to start? What all do you sync?
    - ghjklpoiuy 5y ago
      I like to sync bookmarks, tabs, and history, tabs so if I open a page on my browser and leave it open, my phone will tell me what I am working on on the other machine. Same for history and bookmarks. There's really no downside I can think of in this feature.
      - betwixthewires 5y ago
        Well, the downside is that you have to use the same browser on two different machines. And it doesn't have to be that way, and of all the companies you could expect, Mozilla shouldn't make it that way. But it is a useful feature.
        ghjklpoiuy 5y ago
        Mozilla needs to provide sync as an extension maybe.
- nathcd 5y ago
  I'm sorry, but suggesting that I move to a no-name chromium fork maintained by one person because I miss a Firefox extension is absurd. Perhaps I should also leave my country because my local grocery store doesn't carry the cereal I like. > why do you just take it? Must be my insatiable masochism.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    It's not a no name chromium fork, it's literally the only chromium browser for android that supports extensions. This makes it a very powerful and popular piece of software. Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's time to get nasty. The analog you drew to cereal at the grocery store doesn't fit. It's not about the missing feature, it is about the deliberate kneecapping of functionality. I refuse to use a tool that deliberately, artificially and arbitrarily prevents me from using it the way I need to use it. Firefox deliberately reduced the utility of their tool in order to constrain my behavior. And the only argument I hear in defense is "but we are all that's left that isn't them!" Fuck that noise. If it's crucial for the web to retain your users, quit fucking over your users. If you're all that's left then act like you care before you ask me to care.
AlbinoDrought 5y ago
Needs a workaround, but you should be able to install a limited amount of any extensions using the "Custom Add-on Collection" option: https://web.archive.org/web/20211007060220/https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/ https://web.archive.org/web/20211007060220/https://blog.mozi... I've used this to install one of the otherwise-unsupported *Monkey Userscript extensions
- nathcd 5y ago
  Looks like that's only on Nightly? I'm glad there's a workaround, but I'm not missing Redirector quite that much.

by nathcd 5y ago

This is the one extension I was really bummed to lose on Firefox for Android with the update last year where they started limiting installable extensions to a hand-selected group.

betwixthewires 5y ago

Not to pick on you, but why do you just take it? I was bummed to lose it on Firefox mobile as well, which is why I stopped using it and started using Kiwi browser. Kneecapping my tools and then telling me the other guys are worse does not fly with me, and it shouldn't fly with anyone.

ghjklpoiuy 5y ago
I only learned about it today. Sadly though it doeant sync with Firefox which on desktop is my primary browser
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Well, there's another thing Firefox is doing wrong, it's got a tiny little feature sparse walled garden, when it should be using open standards. Question: I have never bothered syncing anything between browsers on different machines. What benefit would I get out of it if I decided to start? What all do you sync?
  - ghjklpoiuy 5y ago
    I like to sync bookmarks, tabs, and history, tabs so if I open a page on my browser and leave it open, my phone will tell me what I am working on on the other machine. Same for history and bookmarks. There's really no downside I can think of in this feature.
    - betwixthewires 5y ago
      Well, the downside is that you have to use the same browser on two different machines. And it doesn't have to be that way, and of all the companies you could expect, Mozilla shouldn't make it that way. But it is a useful feature.
      - ghjklpoiuy 5y ago
        Mozilla needs to provide sync as an extension maybe.
nathcd 5y ago
I'm sorry, but suggesting that I move to a no-name chromium fork maintained by one person because I miss a Firefox extension is absurd. Perhaps I should also leave my country because my local grocery store doesn't carry the cereal I like. > why do you just take it? Must be my insatiable masochism.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  It's not a no name chromium fork, it's literally the only chromium browser for android that supports extensions. This makes it a very powerful and popular piece of software. Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's time to get nasty. The analog you drew to cereal at the grocery store doesn't fit. It's not about the missing feature, it is about the deliberate kneecapping of functionality. I refuse to use a tool that deliberately, artificially and arbitrarily prevents me from using it the way I need to use it. Firefox deliberately reduced the utility of their tool in order to constrain my behavior. And the only argument I hear in defense is "but we are all that's left that isn't them!" Fuck that noise. If it's crucial for the web to retain your users, quit fucking over your users. If you're all that's left then act like you care before you ask me to care.

AlbinoDrought 5y ago

Needs a workaround, but you should be able to install a limited amount of any extensions using the "Custom Add-on Collection" option: https://web.archive.org/web/20211007060220/https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/ https://web.archive.org/web/20211007060220/https://blog.mozi... I've used this to install one of the otherwise-unsupported *Monkey Userscript extensions

nathcd 5y ago
Looks like that's only on Nightly? I'm glad there's a workaround, but I'm not missing Redirector quite that much.