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Where are they packed? Genuinely curious to see some data about this.

sjg007 5y ago
I don't think you are genuinely curious at all. And if you were actually genuinely curious you could do a cursory Google search or even read a major newspaper. Instead you sit waiting on someone else to deal with your asinine request.
- afrodc_ 5y ago
  Man this is the most non constructive response I've heard. I'm looking for a resource of data showing hospital utilization and you come say me with this nonsense.
chaostheory 5y ago
West coast, Midwest, and north east: Ohio, Rhode Island, Alaska, Iowa Providence hospitals on the west coast are overwhelmed Hennepin hospitals are overwhelmed in Minneapolis Trinity Health with hospitals in 25 states is also getting overwhelmed https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/21/1066093265/with-omicron-now-dominant-depleted-u-s-hospitals-struggle-to-prepare-for-the-wor https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/21/1066093... “ The troops deployed to hospitals will include doctors, nurses, paramedics and other personnel during January and February as needed, the senior administration officials said. The White House is also deploying six emergency response teams to Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin, Arizona, New Hampshire and Vermont, the officials said.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/21/omicron-us-to-deploy-troops-to-hospitals-purchase-500-million-covid-tests.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/21/omi...
- mrjangles 5y ago
  See this is exactly what they said last time, they said hospitals were being overwhelmed then it turned out later that the emergency wards had been empty the whole time. Anyway, I was suspicious so I looked up some of the hospitals you mention. It turns out they are actually short of staff not beds... because they fired them all for not taking the vaccine. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2021/12/09/who-could-have-seen-this-coming-hospitals-that-laid-off-unvaccinated-staff-now-overwhelmed-n1540329 https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2021/12/... The media is in full spin trying to cover up the reason why hospital workers are leaving, claiming it is because they are exhausted, and ignoring the fact they were fired. https://www.fox9.com/news/people-are-exhausted-health-care-worker-shortage-leaves-hospitals-in-a-pinch https://www.fox9.com/news/people-are-exhausted-health-care-w... The Hennepin hospital you mention is getting the army to send more staff https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/defense-department-will-help-relieve-2-minnesota-hospitals https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/defense-depa... Obviously they aren't short of beds or more staff wouldn't help.
  - chaostheory 5y ago
    1. I wouldn’t call PJ media a reliable news source, and I lean right 2. Not all staff quit due to vaccine requirements. As some of the articles pointed out, they quit due to sheer exhaustion from the hospitals being continually overwhelmed 3. The percentage of nurses taken out due to vaccine requirements is less than 1%. Yes, every staff member counts, but that’s not the sole source or even the main source for hospitals being overwhelmed 4. The main cause of hospitals being overwhelmed is still due to a surge of incoming patients.
  - lrem 5y ago
    Uh, hospitals don't get short of furniture anywhere in the world. Most places don't even get short of equipment. It's almost always staff that is the limiting factor.

I don't think you are genuinely curious at all. And if you were actually genuinely curious you could do a cursory Google search or even read a major newspaper. Instead you sit waiting on someone else to deal with your asinine request.

afrodc_ 5y ago
Man this is the most non constructive response I've heard. I'm looking for a resource of data showing hospital utilization and you come say me with this nonsense.

chaostheory 5y ago

West coast, Midwest, and north east: Ohio, Rhode Island, Alaska, Iowa Providence hospitals on the west coast are overwhelmed Hennepin hospitals are overwhelmed in Minneapolis Trinity Health with hospitals in 25 states is also getting overwhelmed https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/21/1066093265/with-omicron-now-dominant-depleted-u-s-hospitals-struggle-to-prepare-for-the-wor https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/21/1066093... “ The troops deployed to hospitals will include doctors, nurses, paramedics and other personnel during January and February as needed, the senior administration officials said. The White House is also deploying six emergency response teams to Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin, Arizona, New Hampshire and Vermont, the officials said.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/21/omicron-us-to-deploy-troops-to-hospitals-purchase-500-million-covid-tests.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/21/omi...

mrjangles 5y ago
See this is exactly what they said last time, they said hospitals were being overwhelmed then it turned out later that the emergency wards had been empty the whole time. Anyway, I was suspicious so I looked up some of the hospitals you mention. It turns out they are actually short of staff not beds... because they fired them all for not taking the vaccine. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2021/12/09/who-could-have-seen-this-coming-hospitals-that-laid-off-unvaccinated-staff-now-overwhelmed-n1540329 https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2021/12/... The media is in full spin trying to cover up the reason why hospital workers are leaving, claiming it is because they are exhausted, and ignoring the fact they were fired. https://www.fox9.com/news/people-are-exhausted-health-care-worker-shortage-leaves-hospitals-in-a-pinch https://www.fox9.com/news/people-are-exhausted-health-care-w... The Hennepin hospital you mention is getting the army to send more staff https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/defense-department-will-help-relieve-2-minnesota-hospitals https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/defense-depa... Obviously they aren't short of beds or more staff wouldn't help.
- chaostheory 5y ago
  1. I wouldn’t call PJ media a reliable news source, and I lean right 2. Not all staff quit due to vaccine requirements. As some of the articles pointed out, they quit due to sheer exhaustion from the hospitals being continually overwhelmed 3. The percentage of nurses taken out due to vaccine requirements is less than 1%. Yes, every staff member counts, but that’s not the sole source or even the main source for hospitals being overwhelmed 4. The main cause of hospitals being overwhelmed is still due to a surge of incoming patients.
- lrem 5y ago
  Uh, hospitals don't get short of furniture anywhere in the world. Most places don't even get short of equipment. It's almost always staff that is the limiting factor.