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Most people that died were 60+ years old

by ds206 5y ago

endisneigh 5y ago
Yes, who were not vaccinated as it didn’t exist for much of the pandemic.
fortran77 5y ago
And obese! https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n623 https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n623
- nsxwolf 5y ago
  Most people are obese.
  - fortran77 5y ago
    Well, "overweight" by CDCs definition (BMI > 25 == overweight). But there's a strong link between complications from COVID and Obesity. It's a shame nobody wants to make the obese pay for their externalities -- even the people who'd like to make the unvaccinated "pay" in some way turn a blind eye to this issue.
    - nsxwolf 5y ago
      That's the issue though, everyone points out the correlation, but of course there's a correlation. Everyone's overweight. Need more analysis to show just how much it affects COVID outcomes. While it would have been nice for the governments to make more of an effort to get people to lose weight during the pandemic, it's not guaranteed it would have had the results some people expect.
    - eropple 5y ago
      If you want to make "the obese" "pay for their externalities", I do hope you have a fantastic plan in place to break the backs of the Nabiscos of the world who literally-not-figuratively design for habituation and drum their marketing into every place they can. The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat".
      - fortran77 5y ago
        > The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat". I tend to think adults are capable of being responsible for their own decisions, including how much to eat.
        eropple 5y ago
        The reality of food scientists designing these things to feel good and to habituate in a world of constant stress with few affordable and time-permitting outlets is a pretty obvious problem with this sort of claim. So is the fact that these bastards push to kids, and a reasonable person might find it a little odd that, at best and most generously, you want to punish people for the outcomes of inadequate parenting. But it's much easier to blame fat people than the pushers, and it feels so much more satisfying to break out the hauteur about them as opposed to the businesses that tech people with tech salaries might someday seek to emulate, so--I guess I get it.
  - 1over137 5y ago
    Most people are not obese. Though in some countries it's certainly getting there. :(

Most people that died were 60+ years old

by ds206 5y ago

Most people that died were 60+ years old

endisneigh 5y ago

Yes, who were not vaccinated as it didn’t exist for much of the pandemic.

fortran77 5y ago

And obese! https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n623 https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n623

nsxwolf 5y ago
Most people are obese.
- fortran77 5y ago
  Well, "overweight" by CDCs definition (BMI > 25 == overweight). But there's a strong link between complications from COVID and Obesity. It's a shame nobody wants to make the obese pay for their externalities -- even the people who'd like to make the unvaccinated "pay" in some way turn a blind eye to this issue.
  - nsxwolf 5y ago
    That's the issue though, everyone points out the correlation, but of course there's a correlation. Everyone's overweight. Need more analysis to show just how much it affects COVID outcomes. While it would have been nice for the governments to make more of an effort to get people to lose weight during the pandemic, it's not guaranteed it would have had the results some people expect.
  - eropple 5y ago
    If you want to make "the obese" "pay for their externalities", I do hope you have a fantastic plan in place to break the backs of the Nabiscos of the world who literally-not-figuratively design for habituation and drum their marketing into every place they can. The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat".
    - fortran77 5y ago
      > The situation was not caused by overstressed people going "you know, I really want to be fat". I tend to think adults are capable of being responsible for their own decisions, including how much to eat.
      - eropple 5y ago
        The reality of food scientists designing these things to feel good and to habituate in a world of constant stress with few affordable and time-permitting outlets is a pretty obvious problem with this sort of claim. So is the fact that these bastards push to kids, and a reasonable person might find it a little odd that, at best and most generously, you want to punish people for the outcomes of inadequate parenting. But it's much easier to blame fat people than the pushers, and it feels so much more satisfying to break out the hauteur about them as opposed to the businesses that tech people with tech salaries might someday seek to emulate, so--I guess I get it.
- 1over137 5y ago
  Most people are not obese. Though in some countries it's certainly getting there. :(