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Where's your Tinder bio in this article? I can't imagine creating a new account and publishing something obscene on any social platform today without being flag

Where's your Tinder bio in this article? I can't imagine creating a new account and publishing something obscene on any social platform today without being flagged or worse.

mschuster91 5y ago
> but a few days ago I came to a new country That one is the key. Likely some analytics service (Facebook?) has his phone associated with country A (his country of origin), and Tinder sees the registration coming in from country B (new country). That mismatch then triggered some anti-fraud signalling.
- hnbad 5y ago
  Or some of the photos he uploaded contained nudity. Or some parts of his profile or some of his photos were considered hate speech under the community guidelines. Or his profile was considered "self-promotional" (e.g. advertising his work or services) or contained addresses or other means of contacting him. We know nothing.
  - mschuster91 5y ago
    Usually banned users get feedback about being banned. The ones usually not getting feedback are spammers - they are being shadowbanned to avoid spammers being able to deduce their ban cause and circumvent the anti-spam measure.
- propogandist 5y ago
  the tinder app, like pretty much all apps, is constantly calling graph.facebook.com while in use. Because the app doesn't work without Location access, FB gets a lot of rich location data every time the app is in use, but I don't believe the data being sent back can be utilized for fraud detection. There's also calls out to crash-analytics, firebase, appsflyer and Google Analytics constantly. The app will function if all these services are blocked.
- 3np 5y ago
  That would be my guess as well. People who frequently travel/change residences or have bases in more than one place seem to get banned or blocked by all kinds of services. Regardless of the intentions of the people designing these systems, I’d argue this is textbook systemic discrimination; you face issues only due to being different enough in the “wrong” way.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    I very much doubt a dating service would have this problem, as many people use dating services while traveling even if they wouldn't at home (either because of cheating or just knowing the scene better at home).
    - schnitzelstoat 5y ago
      While this is true, romance scammers also often try to obscure/spoof their true location - so I can see why it'd be something the Tinder algos would be sensitive to
    - 3np 5y ago
      Just speaking from experience and anecdotes from others. I’m not arguing it makes business-sense. As the OP is arguing, the false positives are probably a small enough percentage of users that companies haven’t found it worthwhile to prioritize. And even if it is, it can be hard to tell from readily available data who’s a false positive in the first place when you don’t have a proper customer support organization.
- notch656a 5y ago
  His home country is Ukraine. Financial transactions and those representing Ukraine are considered to be scammers or money launderers by default by many banks and tech.

Where's your Tinder bio in this article? I can't imagine creating a new account and publishing something obscene on any social platform today without being flagged or worse.

mschuster91 5y ago

> but a few days ago I came to a new country That one is the key. Likely some analytics service (Facebook?) has his phone associated with country A (his country of origin), and Tinder sees the registration coming in from country B (new country). That mismatch then triggered some anti-fraud signalling.

hnbad 5y ago
Or some of the photos he uploaded contained nudity. Or some parts of his profile or some of his photos were considered hate speech under the community guidelines. Or his profile was considered "self-promotional" (e.g. advertising his work or services) or contained addresses or other means of contacting him. We know nothing.
- mschuster91 5y ago
  Usually banned users get feedback about being banned. The ones usually not getting feedback are spammers - they are being shadowbanned to avoid spammers being able to deduce their ban cause and circumvent the anti-spam measure.
propogandist 5y ago
the tinder app, like pretty much all apps, is constantly calling graph.facebook.com while in use. Because the app doesn't work without Location access, FB gets a lot of rich location data every time the app is in use, but I don't believe the data being sent back can be utilized for fraud detection. There's also calls out to crash-analytics, firebase, appsflyer and Google Analytics constantly. The app will function if all these services are blocked.
3np 5y ago
That would be my guess as well. People who frequently travel/change residences or have bases in more than one place seem to get banned or blocked by all kinds of services. Regardless of the intentions of the people designing these systems, I’d argue this is textbook systemic discrimination; you face issues only due to being different enough in the “wrong” way.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  I very much doubt a dating service would have this problem, as many people use dating services while traveling even if they wouldn't at home (either because of cheating or just knowing the scene better at home).
  - schnitzelstoat 5y ago
    While this is true, romance scammers also often try to obscure/spoof their true location - so I can see why it'd be something the Tinder algos would be sensitive to
  - 3np 5y ago
    Just speaking from experience and anecdotes from others. I’m not arguing it makes business-sense. As the OP is arguing, the false positives are probably a small enough percentage of users that companies haven’t found it worthwhile to prioritize. And even if it is, it can be hard to tell from readily available data who’s a false positive in the first place when you don’t have a proper customer support organization.
notch656a 5y ago
His home country is Ukraine. Financial transactions and those representing Ukraine are considered to be scammers or money launderers by default by many banks and tech.