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You must be kidding or willfully ignoring the atrocities committed by Russia just in the last decade or two (occupying Crimea, Afghanistan, wars in Chechnya, G

by tinbad 5y ago

You must be kidding or willfully ignoring the atrocities committed by Russia just in the last decade or two (occupying Crimea, Afghanistan, wars in Chechnya, Georgia and likely Kazakhstan sometime soon) or China (Uyghurs). All in the sole interest of continuing their highly oppressive, dictatorial regimes.

American12143 5y ago
The body counts are not even comparable. In Iraq, ALONE, the U.S. is estimated to have killed 1M+ civilians, between the sanctions it pushed before the 2003 war and the war itself. Here is Madeline Albright saying killing 500k+ kids in Iraq via sanctions was "worth the price" (despite the fact that those sanctions achieved nothing in terms of real political goals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 Edit: but you can flag my comments if that makes you feel better
syki 5y ago
Well, the U.S. did torture priests in Latin America because of their social justice views. We’ve overthrown governments to support banana companies and had no problems supporting Saddam gassing Kurds since he was fighting the Iranians. We supported Papa Doc and for a while Noriega. Our government has experimented on it’s own people and has been involved in the drug trade. We’ve tortured innocent people with no one being held accountable. We spy on a grand scale on our own citizens. We’ve supported dictators and brutality when the people in power thought it beneficial to do so. I don’t think we can claim any sort of moral superiority over others. I’m not saying we are the worst but certainly we are no where close to the best. We are not a light on a hill as some of our presidents have proclaimed.
- stevenwoo 5y ago
  Hey, get it right, technically we paid and trained most of the right wing death squads who raped nuns and killed nuns and priests in Latin America, mostly at the School of the Americas.
  - ogma 5y ago
    And if we're counting the School of the Americas then most of the cartels are our doing too.

by tinbad 5y ago

American12143 5y ago

The body counts are not even comparable. In Iraq, ALONE, the U.S. is estimated to have killed 1M+ civilians, between the sanctions it pushed before the 2003 war and the war itself. Here is Madeline Albright saying killing 500k+ kids in Iraq via sanctions was "worth the price" (despite the fact that those sanctions achieved nothing in terms of real political goals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 Edit: but you can flag my comments if that makes you feel better

syki 5y ago

Well, the U.S. did torture priests in Latin America because of their social justice views. We’ve overthrown governments to support banana companies and had no problems supporting Saddam gassing Kurds since he was fighting the Iranians. We supported Papa Doc and for a while Noriega. Our government has experimented on it’s own people and has been involved in the drug trade. We’ve tortured innocent people with no one being held accountable. We spy on a grand scale on our own citizens. We’ve supported dictators and brutality when the people in power thought it beneficial to do so. I don’t think we can claim any sort of moral superiority over others. I’m not saying we are the worst but certainly we are no where close to the best. We are not a light on a hill as some of our presidents have proclaimed.

stevenwoo 5y ago
Hey, get it right, technically we paid and trained most of the right wing death squads who raped nuns and killed nuns and priests in Latin America, mostly at the School of the Americas.
- ogma 5y ago
  And if we're counting the School of the Americas then most of the cartels are our doing too.