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For now, it's Windows/Linux only. I hope to write a Mac platform layer eventually. I just don't currently have a Mac machine to work on...

ryandrake 5y ago
Unfortunately, the Mac port would likely involve calling into (or out from) a little Objective-C, unless you used the ancient Carbon APIs for graphics and window management.
- tsherif 5y ago
  Ack! Right I hadn't thought of that. I'll have to decide if I'm ok with breaking the "written in standard C" constraint on this project...
- OliverM 5y ago
  So it’s not possible to interface with Metal or the Accelerate framework on macOS using pure C? I’ve found some outdated C wrappers for metal but nothing up to date, and wondered if something in the later versions assumed Swift or Objective C library consumption…
  - flohofwoe 5y ago
    Theoretically, Metal can be called from C by going directly through the Objective-C runtime API, but this requires either macro magic (like: https://github.com/garettbass/oc/ https://github.com/garettbass/oc/), or code-generated headers (which was most likely used in the official Metal-cpp wrapper: https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/ https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/) But it's not a big deal to move all the ObjC code into a separate .m source file and expose a smaller and higher level C API.
  - comex 5y ago
    Accelerate is a pure C API. Metal is an Objective-C API. It is possible to call arbitrary Objective-C APIs from pure C using the Objective-C runtime functions, and Apple themselves recently released a Metal API wrapper written in C++ that works this way. [1] I wouldn't recommend that approach, though. With Objective-C being an almost-pure superset of C, it's a lot easier to just build your code in Objective-C mode and make native Objective-C calls where necessary. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29289761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29289761

ryandrake 5y ago

Unfortunately, the Mac port would likely involve calling into (or out from) a little Objective-C, unless you used the ancient Carbon APIs for graphics and window management.

tsherif 5y ago
Ack! Right I hadn't thought of that. I'll have to decide if I'm ok with breaking the "written in standard C" constraint on this project...
OliverM 5y ago
So it’s not possible to interface with Metal or the Accelerate framework on macOS using pure C? I’ve found some outdated C wrappers for metal but nothing up to date, and wondered if something in the later versions assumed Swift or Objective C library consumption…
- flohofwoe 5y ago
  Theoretically, Metal can be called from C by going directly through the Objective-C runtime API, but this requires either macro magic (like: https://github.com/garettbass/oc/ https://github.com/garettbass/oc/), or code-generated headers (which was most likely used in the official Metal-cpp wrapper: https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/ https://developer.apple.com/metal/cpp/) But it's not a big deal to move all the ObjC code into a separate .m source file and expose a smaller and higher level C API.
- comex 5y ago
  Accelerate is a pure C API. Metal is an Objective-C API. It is possible to call arbitrary Objective-C APIs from pure C using the Objective-C runtime functions, and Apple themselves recently released a Metal API wrapper written in C++ that works this way. [1] I wouldn't recommend that approach, though. With Objective-C being an almost-pure superset of C, it's a lot easier to just build your code in Objective-C mode and make native Objective-C calls where necessary. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29289761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29289761