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> To this day I still don’t understand how one can read the agile manifesto and somehow get to scrum. It's almost like scrum pre-dates the agile manifesto. (Wh
by kinbiko 5y ago
> To this day I still don’t understand how one can read the agile manifesto and somehow get to scrum.
It's almost like scrum pre-dates the agile manifesto. (Which it does)
- tyingq 5y agoBut the manifesto was written by many of the same people. The expectation that they would be compatible seems reasonable. And, the "Scrum Alliance" happened very shortly after the manifesto.
- xondono 5y agoI know, but it’s not how it’s sold. The typical presentation is “we need agility => Scrum”. One would assume that if Scrum doesn’t fit the bill, one would discard it.
- geekbird 5y agoBut, unfortunately, scrum has become synonymous with "Agile" in the corporate mind. Everything, including SRE and ops work, gets force-fit into Jira "Agile" (really FrAgile) methods and meeting-heavy rituals. But scrum easily devolves to rapid cycle waterfall death marches. This has been going on for at least nine years that I know of. It sucks. When a company says "We do Agile with Scrum" I wince and am very, very skeptical.
- MikeDelta 5y agoAnd add DevOps to it, because then one can get rid of run == cost savings.
- lupire 5y agoScrune advocates contributed to the Agile Manifesto, though. They are aligned.