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Let's call BS. It's inane to claim existence being the root of all evil, because, yeah, it's the root of friggin' _everything_. Nothing is forced on "you" bec

by ac42 5y ago

Let's call BS. It's inane to claim existence being the root of all evil, because, yeah, it's the root of friggin' _everything_. Nothing is forced on "you" because without existence there is no "you". Or anti-natalists could just as easily be blamed of "depriving" the non-born of their chance to live. Ouch. I, for one, enjoy life (and don't you dare tell me I just don't realise it sucks). I even like working on the hard bits, like underpaid shopkeepers and inhumane working hours, thank you.

goldenkey 5y ago
> It's inane to claim existence being the root of all evil, because, yeah, it's the root of friggin' _everything_. It is not a matter of fact that conscious existence is the root of all things. To state such, is to take an unprovable philosophical position. > Nothing is forced on "you" because without existence there is no "you". Or anti-natalists could just as easily be blamed of "depriving" the non-born of their chance to live. Ouch. Not relevant. The forcing only happens during one's existence. Thus, stating an individual is forced to survive is not some semantic null pointer error. Furthermore, one cannot be blamed for depriving non-born of life, because they do not actually exist. That is a null pointer error. Your examples actually support my position. > I, for one, enjoy life (and don't you dare tell me I just don't realise it sucks). I even like working on the hard bits, like underpaid shopkeepers and inhumane working hours, thank you. You seem rather embittered about life, so much so that you take everything I've said out of context. Helpings others is a virtue. Life is still cruel though. I did not say life is sucky. Sucky is a sophomoric adjective that ill describes something as complex as life. I get it, you are invested in convincing yourself that you love/like your life. Even if that is the case, in actuality, it doesn't change the nature of life for everyone, including your future self. By all means, if we are here, we should do be the best we can to enjoy the ride and help make this place better for those who come next. But let's not be in denial about the nature of life. For all the ice cream you eat, the sex that you have, the loving relationships you share, it won't nullify the abyssal horrors experienced by unlucky living beings [1] I don't see how anyone sane could think that living an enjoyable life somehow balances out the lives of those who endure absolute horrors. [1] https://youtu.be/oHJuzE0k1V8 https://youtu.be/oHJuzE0k1V8
- ac42 5y ago
  Dude... Null pointer exception, really. I wish you the best of luck reasoning about life and happiness in Java. Just don't attribute the ensuing frustrations to being born.

by ac42 5y ago

goldenkey 5y ago

> It's inane to claim existence being the root of all evil, because, yeah, it's the root of friggin' _everything_. It is not a matter of fact that conscious existence is the root of all things. To state such, is to take an unprovable philosophical position. > Nothing is forced on "you" because without existence there is no "you". Or anti-natalists could just as easily be blamed of "depriving" the non-born of their chance to live. Ouch. Not relevant. The forcing only happens during one's existence. Thus, stating an individual is forced to survive is not some semantic null pointer error. Furthermore, one cannot be blamed for depriving non-born of life, because they do not actually exist. That is a null pointer error. Your examples actually support my position. > I, for one, enjoy life (and don't you dare tell me I just don't realise it sucks). I even like working on the hard bits, like underpaid shopkeepers and inhumane working hours, thank you. You seem rather embittered about life, so much so that you take everything I've said out of context. Helpings others is a virtue. Life is still cruel though. I did not say life is sucky. Sucky is a sophomoric adjective that ill describes something as complex as life. I get it, you are invested in convincing yourself that you love/like your life. Even if that is the case, in actuality, it doesn't change the nature of life for everyone, including your future self. By all means, if we are here, we should do be the best we can to enjoy the ride and help make this place better for those who come next. But let's not be in denial about the nature of life. For all the ice cream you eat, the sex that you have, the loving relationships you share, it won't nullify the abyssal horrors experienced by unlucky living beings [1] I don't see how anyone sane could think that living an enjoyable life somehow balances out the lives of those who endure absolute horrors. [1] https://youtu.be/oHJuzE0k1V8 https://youtu.be/oHJuzE0k1V8

ac42 5y ago
Dude... Null pointer exception, really. I wish you the best of luck reasoning about life and happiness in Java. Just don't attribute the ensuing frustrations to being born.