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Public transport doesn't work if you have to wear a mask to ride it. People on the margins between wanting to drive or get transport will switch to driving beca

Public transport doesn't work if you have to wear a mask to ride it. People on the margins between wanting to drive or get transport will switch to driving because of the inherent discomfort and dehumanization of being forced to wear a mask. Remove all COVID-era restrictions from schools, workplaces, and transport, and systems will go back to functioning normally.

Avicebron 5y ago
I think Japan's public transit is a good example of this not being the case, trains work, run on time, and people are fine with mask restrictions.
- charlieyu1 5y ago
  Not sure how westerners are comfortable with packing people so close inside the train, with about 6 people per square metre. And the work culture is pretty toxic. Train drivers basically have to apologise if the train arrives 30 seconds late
cowsandmilk 5y ago
When someone is talking about a decade long trend, they probably aren’t talking about something driven by masks and Covid.
eloisius 5y ago
Public transit is working great in Taipei and masks have been mandatory for almost two years.
throwaway984393 5y ago
People wear masks to save other human beings' lives. How is that dehumanizing?
- blindmute 5y ago
  People wear masks because otherwise they can't do basic things they used to do.
  - throwaway984393 5y ago
    Alright, I grant you, at least half of humanity wouldn't voluntarily wear a mask even to save the lives of their own family, as we've seen time and again. But the purpose of the masks is to save lives, like wearing a seat belt, or not drinking and driving. Sure, most people would rather drink alcohol while driving without a seat belt. But we don't allow it anyway. That's not dehumanizing. It's the epitome of humanization. It's about civility, compassion, kindness, and overcoming cruel dispositions and rude habits to become or be made more humane.
burntwater 5y ago
I own a car and use public transportation. Having to wear a mask has never come even close to factoring into which I take. Having to deal with all the traffic and terrible drivers though? That factors in heavily.
kaishiro 5y ago
Sometimes I swear I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't mind wearing a mask. When you say dehumanizing though - what exactly do you mean by that? Genuinely curious.
- andrewxdiamond 5y ago
  They mean they cant come up with a good reason for their complaints so they default to vague and meaningless reasons as a means of pouting like a child
  - zzzzzasdf 5y ago
    Kill yourself
- lightrail123 5y ago
  I'm with you. Wearing a mask seems like not a huge deal (though I should note that folks on the spectrum may find the experience really unpleasant, and we should do what we can to support folks who aren't neurotypical.) Try different masks, different styles. There's several different patterns for masks and finding the right one for your face helps a lot.
Dylan16807 5y ago
Being on the other side of a bus or train from someone, both wearing masks, allows way more of a humanizing connection than being in a completely separate car bubble.

Avicebron 5y ago

I think Japan's public transit is a good example of this not being the case, trains work, run on time, and people are fine with mask restrictions.

charlieyu1 5y ago
Not sure how westerners are comfortable with packing people so close inside the train, with about 6 people per square metre. And the work culture is pretty toxic. Train drivers basically have to apologise if the train arrives 30 seconds late

cowsandmilk 5y ago

When someone is talking about a decade long trend, they probably aren’t talking about something driven by masks and Covid.

eloisius 5y ago

Public transit is working great in Taipei and masks have been mandatory for almost two years.

throwaway984393 5y ago

People wear masks to save other human beings' lives. How is that dehumanizing?

blindmute 5y ago
People wear masks because otherwise they can't do basic things they used to do.
- throwaway984393 5y ago
  Alright, I grant you, at least half of humanity wouldn't voluntarily wear a mask even to save the lives of their own family, as we've seen time and again. But the purpose of the masks is to save lives, like wearing a seat belt, or not drinking and driving. Sure, most people would rather drink alcohol while driving without a seat belt. But we don't allow it anyway. That's not dehumanizing. It's the epitome of humanization. It's about civility, compassion, kindness, and overcoming cruel dispositions and rude habits to become or be made more humane.

burntwater 5y ago

I own a car and use public transportation. Having to wear a mask has never come even close to factoring into which I take. Having to deal with all the traffic and terrible drivers though? That factors in heavily.

kaishiro 5y ago

Sometimes I swear I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't mind wearing a mask. When you say dehumanizing though - what exactly do you mean by that? Genuinely curious.

andrewxdiamond 5y ago
They mean they cant come up with a good reason for their complaints so they default to vague and meaningless reasons as a means of pouting like a child
- zzzzzasdf 5y ago
  Kill yourself
lightrail123 5y ago
I'm with you. Wearing a mask seems like not a huge deal (though I should note that folks on the spectrum may find the experience really unpleasant, and we should do what we can to support folks who aren't neurotypical.) Try different masks, different styles. There's several different patterns for masks and finding the right one for your face helps a lot.

Dylan16807 5y ago

Being on the other side of a bus or train from someone, both wearing masks, allows way more of a humanizing connection than being in a completely separate car bubble.