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Ok, do you have any recommendations for uh, China analysis YouTubers?
by guscost 5y ago
Ok, do you have any recommendations for uh, China analysis YouTubers?
- rectang 5y agoWhen weighing pphysch's media recommendations, consider that they apparently believe that applying Occam's Razor leads to the conclusion that "Washington media is blowing literally any scandal out of proportion in a propaganda blitz aimed at tarnishing Beijing 2022." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344160
- pphysch 5y agoNow why would I think that? > When the Chinese do it, it’s propaganda. When Washington does it, it’s “investing in our values”. The last phrase is taken from the Strategic Competition Act of 2021, newly passed by the United States Senate and will soon become law. It aims squarely at China and enjoys bipartisan support. Surely no trusted journalist would publish objective nonsense for a slice of that $300,000,000 propaganda budget created by the SCA21?
- hogFeast 5y agoIt is truly bizarre to me that someone who is taking a very pro-CCP stance will justify this with reference to propaganda that other nations create...it is really something. Every nation creates propaganda, every nation does not have media controlled by the state, every nation does not have massive propaganda departments that are present at all levels of society...they aren't equivalent, the only reason to draw the equivalence is because you understand that something is wrong but (for whatever reason) have to justify that to yourself by claiming everyone else is just as bad. It is like the Communist criticism of democracy: oh, elections are all rigged by wealthy people anyway...said from a country with no elections and a one-party state. Ofc.
- pphysch 5y agoIt is truly bizarre when people trick themselves into the paradox of "I don't trust Government 1 but I trust everything they or their crony media says about Government 2"
- bardan 5y agoSomething funny and illustrative about the PRC for me was getting into shortwave radio. Let me explain. Sometimes certain people will tell you that the CCP isn't so censorious, that it's all Western hyperbole and propaganda, that most other governments are equivalent. But then you spin your dial through the shortwave broadcast bands and, no exaggeration, every 6 broadcasts or so will be the CCP jamming another broadcast from Taiwan, the US, the UK or elsewhere. No other country on Earth, apart from NK and occasionally Cuba, treats its people with such contempt. And all this energy, literal and figurative, just for shortwave radio.
- Teever 5y agoJust to play devil's advocate on that one, but maybe the Chinese understand the power of propaganda better than anyone and they don't want western propaganda disrupting their society?
- bardan 5y agoWhat precisely does that entail? I could say that and then prevent you from hearing anything from the outside world, just keep you locked in a cellar. It's for your own good, I understand how the propaganda might affect your delicate mind.
- pphysch 5y ago"America built a border wall preventing their people from escaping. Look how much contempt they have!" "America banned citizens from owning heavy weaponry. Look how much contempt they have!" "American banned citizens from smoking meth! Look how much contempt they have!" Ridiculous.
- hogFeast 5y ago
- guscost 5y agoEh, I don’t really care which username recommends things on the internet, I care about finding more sources to expand my understanding. pphysch’s sources could very well be garbage, but I can decide that for myself.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoCyrus Janssen, Daniel Dumbrill, Geopolitics In Conflict, Carl Zha, Brian Berletic.
- guscost 5y agoI’ll add these to my sources, thanks.
- anter 5y agoMind that some of those mentioned receive money from the CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOIrsmjRFxU
- guscost 5y agoYep, thanks.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoMind you, accused of being paid. I recommend you to watch arguments from both sides and then decide for yourself whether the accusation is right or not.
- guscost 5y agoAlright, mom! Sheesh!!
- pphysch 5y agoAnd Sandy Hook was a false flag op, because grifters would never lie on the internet.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoWell here's what Cyrus Janssen has to say about accusations of him being paid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-6fgN3MZA TLDR: he didn't only not get paid, he refused payment. Plus the payment offer was not "we pay you to say this" but "we want to license your content for republication" and "we pay you a fee for the trouble of appearing on our show to give your independent opinions".
- pphysch 5y agoSure. What topics/sectors are you interested in?
- guscost 5y agoAsking this question pretty much reveals what you’re going to recommend. Obviously, I’m looking for opinions about: “CCP good, or CCP bad?”
- systemvoltage 5y agoDigging to China YT channel. Amazing coverage, objective and very sound.