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often people want more feature, thinking more is better. iPad has color it is better right? Personally I would pay more to have e-ink. Looking at it is like

often people want more feature, thinking more is better. iPad has color it is better right? Personally I would pay more to have e-ink. Looking at it is like looking at paper! It is easier on the eyes, less drain on the battery. And most stuff software development wise, b&w is good enough.

maratc 5y ago
iPad has silky smooth scrolling and instant reaction to the input (milliseconds). Once e-ink technology advances enough to allow for these, it might compete with iPad, but until then the lag is severely limiting what the device can do. Reading books (one screen refresh a minute) is fine, but not much else.
elzbardico 5y ago
I personally find an iPad and a apple pencil either with Notability or the default Notes application the nirvana for me. Looking at paper is overrated, IMHO, a modern retina display with at least 69hz refresh rate shouldn't objectively cause any discomfort, unless you're using it under really adverse situations, like under direct sunlight.
di4na 5y ago
I just want to point out that there are good e-ink color display now! It is just that none of the integrators made a product/device using it yet really. There is a whole array of "notebook like" e-ink devices being created and released, but they mostly exist in, and target, the chinese and japanese market. Not the Western one. Remarkable is one of the exception and Kobo recently released one. Hopefully we will see more of it. I personally think that the reason for this lack of device targeting the Western market is that the Kindle basically flooded the board and killed most of the use case. Sadly :(
- alwyn 5y ago
  Do you happen to have some links to Japanese/Chinese e-ink colour devices?
  - eloeffler 5y ago
    I'm not a fan of onyx devices due to many reports about questionable home-calling. However, they do have some nice devices like this color notebook with a pen and I guess that is what you were looking for: https://onyxboox.com/boox_nova3color https://onyxboox.com/boox_nova3color
  - ijuhoor 5y ago
    If you live in the us, https://goodereader.com/blog/shop https://goodereader.com/blog/shop has a shop that sells pretty much all the e paper devices
- Shorel 5y ago
  None? I've had my PocketBook Inkpad Color for over six months already.
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  Color e-ink displays are not "good." The refresh rate is even more atrocious than regular e-ink.
  - ryzvonusef 5y ago
    E-Ink is a brand name e-paper tech There is a competitor called DES Slurry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAxyp7cj78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAxyp7cj78 It has more colours, better resolution and better contrast... but it's refresh and update speeds are much slower than E-Ink... which hopefully will improve as time progresses We need more competition in this space.

maratc 5y ago

iPad has silky smooth scrolling and instant reaction to the input (milliseconds). Once e-ink technology advances enough to allow for these, it might compete with iPad, but until then the lag is severely limiting what the device can do. Reading books (one screen refresh a minute) is fine, but not much else.

elzbardico 5y ago

I personally find an iPad and a apple pencil either with Notability or the default Notes application the nirvana for me. Looking at paper is overrated, IMHO, a modern retina display with at least 69hz refresh rate shouldn't objectively cause any discomfort, unless you're using it under really adverse situations, like under direct sunlight.

di4na 5y ago

I just want to point out that there are good e-ink color display now! It is just that none of the integrators made a product/device using it yet really. There is a whole array of "notebook like" e-ink devices being created and released, but they mostly exist in, and target, the chinese and japanese market. Not the Western one. Remarkable is one of the exception and Kobo recently released one. Hopefully we will see more of it. I personally think that the reason for this lack of device targeting the Western market is that the Kindle basically flooded the board and killed most of the use case. Sadly :(

alwyn 5y ago
Do you happen to have some links to Japanese/Chinese e-ink colour devices?
- eloeffler 5y ago
  I'm not a fan of onyx devices due to many reports about questionable home-calling. However, they do have some nice devices like this color notebook with a pen and I guess that is what you were looking for: https://onyxboox.com/boox_nova3color https://onyxboox.com/boox_nova3color
- ijuhoor 5y ago
  If you live in the us, https://goodereader.com/blog/shop https://goodereader.com/blog/shop has a shop that sells pretty much all the e paper devices
Shorel 5y ago
None? I've had my PocketBook Inkpad Color for over six months already.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
Color e-ink displays are not "good." The refresh rate is even more atrocious than regular e-ink.
- ryzvonusef 5y ago
  E-Ink is a brand name e-paper tech There is a competitor called DES Slurry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAxyp7cj78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAxyp7cj78 It has more colours, better resolution and better contrast... but it's refresh and update speeds are much slower than E-Ink... which hopefully will improve as time progresses We need more competition in this space.