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I think you are all missing the point. There already is a massive market for high end gaming pcs and laptops. Compare these prices and specs to what is availabl

by ianl 15y ago

I think you are all missing the point. There already is a massive market for high end gaming pcs and laptops. Compare these prices and specs to what is available from Alienware or MSI. This laptop only misgiving is the fact it does not have an SSD. However, it is competitively priced in comparison to its competition and with a sleek sexy design this is a very interesting entry into the market.

pragmatic 15y ago
Exactly. And this is the first one. If this succeeds with the high end people (you know those that spend $4000 on a gaming pc), then the price will come down. This is the best thing I've seen in long time.
- idle_processor 15y ago
  Some people use expensive hardware as a status symbol, and having something expensive with a flashy UI will probably appeal to them. I don't know how common this type of person is. Others spend a lot on hardware to eke out as much performance as possible. The Razer laptop will fail miserably with these people, because the specs obtained for the cost are abyssmal. ________________________________________________ Razer at $2800: 2.8GHz Intel® CoreTM i7 2640M Processor 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory NVIDIA GeForce® GT 555M (2GB VRAM) ________________________________________________ Sager/Clevo at around $2700 (using xoticpc). 3.2-3.46GHz Intel® Core™ i7-960 8MB L3 Cache ATI Radeon DUAL (2) HD6990M's (4GB VRAM) 12GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory ________________________________________________ The GT 555M's 3DMark 06 score is 10586.3. The Dual HD6690M has a score of 23292, more than double. I would have honestly expected at least a single GTX 570M (preferably 580) from a cutting-edge gaming laptop housing an NVIDIA card. The Sager will be a bulkier laptop, but my experience (with dragging an Asus G73 to and from university and work) is that carrying bags/backpacks mitigate the weight issue, and that bulk is never a factor. An inferior gaming experience due to weaker hardware, however, is. Sources: http://xoticpc.com http://xoticpc.com (for configuring/pricing a Sager/Clevo laptop) http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark... (for video card benchmarks)
phaus 15y ago
There is no way this laptop is competitively priced with Alienware and MSI. For about $1200 you can get an Alienware with the same GPU(which accounts for 90 percent of your framerate). For under 1500 you can get an MSI or Asus laptop with a GTX 560M which is significantly better than the GT 555M. If you actually wanted a high-end gaming system you could go all out and get a M18X Alienware with dual 6990M GPUs. Just so we can rule this out as a gaming computer once and for all, here is a performance comparison. $2880 Razer "gaming" computer - GT 555M Bad Company 2 Ultra Settings - 17-20 FPS $1799 Alienware M17X with single 6990M - Bad Company 2 Ultra Settings - 57-59 FPS $2499 Alienware M18X with dual 6990Ms - Bad Company 2 Ultra Settings - 110 FPS http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-C... http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6990M-Crossfire.58862.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6990M-Crossfire.5... So price/performance wise, the Razer laptop offers about $550 worth of gaming performance, but it is lighter and also has a $2200 dollar trackpad that no one in their right mind would use to play a real video game.
- falcolas 15y ago
  Owning one of those Alienware M15X Laptops, I can say that they are heavy and bulky. The form factor of this new laptop is a lot better, and would make a huge impact on my desire to buy it if I actually want to take it anywhere. Hell, I about broke my back trying to lug my Alienware around a conference. I'll never do that again. I'd pay quite a bit for the ability to actually have my notebook computer be portable, and yet still able to play games.
  - phaus 15y ago
    I agree that gaming laptops are a huge pain to carry around, but Razer's system is outrageously expensive for what you get. You could still save hundreds of dollars by purchasing a normal laptop for 300-500 to take to the office and then buy an Alienware or Clevo with a 6990M in it for about 1500-1800. If you decide to buy a desktop instead of the Alienware, you can save another 1k. If one is happy with a GT 555M's performance, you can find a 5.5 lb laptop for about 700-800 dollars which has the same card and the same CPU.
dlevine 15y ago
For $2800 it had better have an SSD. Compared with a 320GB HDD, a 256GB SSD would only add $2-300 to the price of the laptop.
stcredzero 15y ago
This laptop only misgiving is the fact it does not have an SSD. However, it is competitively priced in comparison to its competition and with a sleek sexy design this is a very interesting entry into the market. I think Google should invest in this thing. Include an SSD, and leverage the unique UI elements for Chrome OS. In this case, it wouldn't be just for gaming. Instead it would be a powerful and compelling alternative to the iPad for the end-user browse/email/word process crowd. If it's also a killer platform for MMOs and casual games, then it would have a powerful draw for college students.
- duskwuff 15y ago
  > I think Google should invest in this thing. Include an SSD, and leverage the unique UI elements for Chrome OS. In this case, it wouldn't be just for gaming. Instead it would be a powerful and compelling alternative to the iPad for the end-user browse/email/word process crowd. At more than five times the price? I'm not so sure.
  - stcredzero 15y ago
    At five times the price, no. But if Google put muscle behind it, they might get some economies of scale going.

by ianl 15y ago

pragmatic 15y ago

Exactly. And this is the first one. If this succeeds with the high end people (you know those that spend $4000 on a gaming pc), then the price will come down. This is the best thing I've seen in long time.

idle_processor 15y ago
Some people use expensive hardware as a status symbol, and having something expensive with a flashy UI will probably appeal to them. I don't know how common this type of person is. Others spend a lot on hardware to eke out as much performance as possible. The Razer laptop will fail miserably with these people, because the specs obtained for the cost are abyssmal. ________________________________________________ Razer at $2800: 2.8GHz Intel® CoreTM i7 2640M Processor 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory NVIDIA GeForce® GT 555M (2GB VRAM) ________________________________________________ Sager/Clevo at around $2700 (using xoticpc). 3.2-3.46GHz Intel® Core™ i7-960 8MB L3 Cache ATI Radeon DUAL (2) HD6990M's (4GB VRAM) 12GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory ________________________________________________ The GT 555M's 3DMark 06 score is 10586.3. The Dual HD6690M has a score of 23292, more than double. I would have honestly expected at least a single GTX 570M (preferably 580) from a cutting-edge gaming laptop housing an NVIDIA card. The Sager will be a bulkier laptop, but my experience (with dragging an Asus G73 to and from university and work) is that carrying bags/backpacks mitigate the weight issue, and that bulk is never a factor. An inferior gaming experience due to weaker hardware, however, is. Sources: http://xoticpc.com http://xoticpc.com (for configuring/pricing a Sager/Clevo laptop) http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark... (for video card benchmarks)

phaus 15y ago

There is no way this laptop is competitively priced with Alienware and MSI. For about $1200 you can get an Alienware with the same GPU(which accounts for 90 percent of your framerate). For under 1500 you can get an MSI or Asus laptop with a GTX 560M which is significantly better than the GT 555M. If you actually wanted a high-end gaming system you could go all out and get a M18X Alienware with dual 6990M GPUs. Just so we can rule this out as a gaming computer once and for all, here is a performance comparison. $2880 Razer "gaming" computer - GT 555M Bad Company 2 Ultra Settings - 17-20 FPS $1799 Alienware M17X with single 6990M - Bad Company 2 Ultra Settings - 57-59 FPS $2499 Alienware M18X with dual 6990Ms - Bad Company 2 Ultra Settings - 110 FPS http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-C... http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6990M-Crossfire.58862.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6990M-Crossfire.5... So price/performance wise, the Razer laptop offers about $550 worth of gaming performance, but it is lighter and also has a $2200 dollar trackpad that no one in their right mind would use to play a real video game.

falcolas 15y ago
Owning one of those Alienware M15X Laptops, I can say that they are heavy and bulky. The form factor of this new laptop is a lot better, and would make a huge impact on my desire to buy it if I actually want to take it anywhere. Hell, I about broke my back trying to lug my Alienware around a conference. I'll never do that again. I'd pay quite a bit for the ability to actually have my notebook computer be portable, and yet still able to play games.
- phaus 15y ago
  I agree that gaming laptops are a huge pain to carry around, but Razer's system is outrageously expensive for what you get. You could still save hundreds of dollars by purchasing a normal laptop for 300-500 to take to the office and then buy an Alienware or Clevo with a 6990M in it for about 1500-1800. If you decide to buy a desktop instead of the Alienware, you can save another 1k. If one is happy with a GT 555M's performance, you can find a 5.5 lb laptop for about 700-800 dollars which has the same card and the same CPU.

dlevine 15y ago

For $2800 it had better have an SSD. Compared with a 320GB HDD, a 256GB SSD would only add $2-300 to the price of the laptop.

stcredzero 15y ago

This laptop only misgiving is the fact it does not have an SSD. However, it is competitively priced in comparison to its competition and with a sleek sexy design this is a very interesting entry into the market. I think Google should invest in this thing. Include an SSD, and leverage the unique UI elements for Chrome OS. In this case, it wouldn't be just for gaming. Instead it would be a powerful and compelling alternative to the iPad for the end-user browse/email/word process crowd. If it's also a killer platform for MMOs and casual games, then it would have a powerful draw for college students.

duskwuff 15y ago
> I think Google should invest in this thing. Include an SSD, and leverage the unique UI elements for Chrome OS. In this case, it wouldn't be just for gaming. Instead it would be a powerful and compelling alternative to the iPad for the end-user browse/email/word process crowd. At more than five times the price? I'm not so sure.
- stcredzero 15y ago
  At five times the price, no. But if Google put muscle behind it, they might get some economies of scale going.