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I can tell you for sure I would not being happy if I had no choice to be working at 70, 75 or even 66.

by vbg 5y ago

paulmendoza 5y ago
What % of your pay are you saving and what age are you? Almost no one saves enough.
romwell 5y ago
Eh, how about also not having a choice to work at any age before that? Why is giving 5 out of 7 days to work pretty much every week the norm? There are so many worthwhile pursuits other than being a business owner or an employee. However, even people who save up enough to take a break will face many obstacles - like having to explain "experience gap", as if being able to do what you want requires justification.
- WhisperingShiba 5y ago
  Its because of all the goofballs who 'manage property' for a living, and let their surfs produce all of the luxury goods they wish to consume all day for the rest of their lives. Vegetables, clothing, and water and power are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP to DIY. Housing is also pretty simple, although it may take a while to make it nice. Good places to live are available, but you need enough educatedpeople to want to take the risk outside of society with you. The biggest obstacle to attaining a better life for most people is breaking the construct of 'I'm going to be THE ONE' hyperstition that Capitalism engenders.
  - CapricornNoble 5y ago
    >>>Vegetables, clothing, and water and power are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP to DIY. DIY gardens/potable water/solar can easily create high-quality outputs, equivalent to the best available anywhere else. DIY clothing? Yeah, I don't think most DIYers can produce anti-microbial, moisture-wicking, flame-resistant, form-fitting-yet-maneuverable tactical shirts. https://www.first-spear.com/the-asset-technical-field-shirt?childSku=500-14-00039-001-02 https://www.first-spear.com/the-asset-technical-field-shirt?... >>>The biggest obstacle to attaining a better life for most people is breaking the construct of 'I'm going to be THE ONE' hyperstition that Capitalism engenders. Is that capitalism, or just human nature? Every warlord/general EVER who overthrew a head of state in the past 4,000 years of recorded history just KNEW he deserved to be "The One". Unlike the commoners of the time, only a handful of people had the military power necessary to "make it big". Now, almost anyone can accumulate economic power to live like a king.
    - WhisperingShiba 5y ago
      I like the energy of wanting a distributed Maslow's hierarchy of needs tier 1 and 2 to have superior products to the centralized conception, but I think most people just need comfortable clothing to live in, and rugged clothing to work in. The hope is critically important for the mental manifestation of any thought form. I think we could have a better method than Capitalism if we knew we could and put some effort into it. Religions are supposed to fill this role. Besides Capitalism, which is kinda a religion, but actually exists as a meta-layer on top of other, outdated religions, the last great religion was formed 1000+ years ago.
    - creamytaco 5y ago
      I wouldn't wear that shirt if you paid me. I bet half of it is plastic ("polyester") unhealthy and damaging to the environment in 100 different ways. I'll stick with plain old cotton, you can keep the "anti-microbial, moisture-wicking, flame-resistant, form-fitting-yet-maneuverable tactical shirt" and -hopefully- avoid the associated cancer(s) .
      - CapricornNoble 5y ago
        >>>I bet half of it is plastic ("polyester") unhealthy and damaging to the environment in 100 different ways. You don't have to guess at its contents, you could just....read the linked product description. It's mostly Merino wool, which is a natural fiber. Para-Aramid is synthetic but isn't a proven carcinogen. We stopped using polyester moisture-wicking shirts when we learned that the fabric melts into your flesh during IED attacks. Cotton has its uses, but it is not as durable nor as performant without at least a blended fabric or other production compromises (such as overall additional weight). None of which changes my original point: you can't just buy a sewing machine, get a bolt of cloth, and fabricate a shirt of equivalent performance in your own home.
    - juanani 5y ago
      Are you aware the history you read was written by someone? Did you interview all these warlods yourself? Did they even speak English? Ofcourse the aystem that spawned you will want to keep you thinking your very nature is this way. Very pathetic to take at face value. We are calling ourselves smart these days. Nobody dares question the shit theyve been fed. What a flock.
ashtonkem 5y ago
I was going to say, raw statistics like this are hiding a lot. There is a big difference between working because you love it, because you don’t know what else to do, or because you must do it or face starvation. Why is very important here.

I can tell you for sure I would not being happy if I had no choice to be working at 70, 75 or even 66.

by vbg 5y ago

I can tell you for sure I would not being happy if I had no choice to be working at 70, 75 or even 66.

paulmendoza 5y ago

What % of your pay are you saving and what age are you? Almost no one saves enough.

romwell 5y ago

Eh, how about also not having a choice to work at any age before that? Why is giving 5 out of 7 days to work pretty much every week the norm? There are so many worthwhile pursuits other than being a business owner or an employee. However, even people who save up enough to take a break will face many obstacles - like having to explain "experience gap", as if being able to do what you want requires justification.

WhisperingShiba 5y ago
Its because of all the goofballs who 'manage property' for a living, and let their surfs produce all of the luxury goods they wish to consume all day for the rest of their lives. Vegetables, clothing, and water and power are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP to DIY. Housing is also pretty simple, although it may take a while to make it nice. Good places to live are available, but you need enough educatedpeople to want to take the risk outside of society with you. The biggest obstacle to attaining a better life for most people is breaking the construct of 'I'm going to be THE ONE' hyperstition that Capitalism engenders.
- CapricornNoble 5y ago
  >>>Vegetables, clothing, and water and power are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP to DIY. DIY gardens/potable water/solar can easily create high-quality outputs, equivalent to the best available anywhere else. DIY clothing? Yeah, I don't think most DIYers can produce anti-microbial, moisture-wicking, flame-resistant, form-fitting-yet-maneuverable tactical shirts. https://www.first-spear.com/the-asset-technical-field-shirt?childSku=500-14-00039-001-02 https://www.first-spear.com/the-asset-technical-field-shirt?... >>>The biggest obstacle to attaining a better life for most people is breaking the construct of 'I'm going to be THE ONE' hyperstition that Capitalism engenders. Is that capitalism, or just human nature? Every warlord/general EVER who overthrew a head of state in the past 4,000 years of recorded history just KNEW he deserved to be "The One". Unlike the commoners of the time, only a handful of people had the military power necessary to "make it big". Now, almost anyone can accumulate economic power to live like a king.
  - WhisperingShiba 5y ago
    I like the energy of wanting a distributed Maslow's hierarchy of needs tier 1 and 2 to have superior products to the centralized conception, but I think most people just need comfortable clothing to live in, and rugged clothing to work in. The hope is critically important for the mental manifestation of any thought form. I think we could have a better method than Capitalism if we knew we could and put some effort into it. Religions are supposed to fill this role. Besides Capitalism, which is kinda a religion, but actually exists as a meta-layer on top of other, outdated religions, the last great religion was formed 1000+ years ago.
  - creamytaco 5y ago
    I wouldn't wear that shirt if you paid me. I bet half of it is plastic ("polyester") unhealthy and damaging to the environment in 100 different ways. I'll stick with plain old cotton, you can keep the "anti-microbial, moisture-wicking, flame-resistant, form-fitting-yet-maneuverable tactical shirt" and -hopefully- avoid the associated cancer(s) .
    - CapricornNoble 5y ago
      >>>I bet half of it is plastic ("polyester") unhealthy and damaging to the environment in 100 different ways. You don't have to guess at its contents, you could just....read the linked product description. It's mostly Merino wool, which is a natural fiber. Para-Aramid is synthetic but isn't a proven carcinogen. We stopped using polyester moisture-wicking shirts when we learned that the fabric melts into your flesh during IED attacks. Cotton has its uses, but it is not as durable nor as performant without at least a blended fabric or other production compromises (such as overall additional weight). None of which changes my original point: you can't just buy a sewing machine, get a bolt of cloth, and fabricate a shirt of equivalent performance in your own home.
  - juanani 5y ago
    Are you aware the history you read was written by someone? Did you interview all these warlods yourself? Did they even speak English? Ofcourse the aystem that spawned you will want to keep you thinking your very nature is this way. Very pathetic to take at face value. We are calling ourselves smart these days. Nobody dares question the shit theyve been fed. What a flock.

ashtonkem 5y ago

I was going to say, raw statistics like this are hiding a lot. There is a big difference between working because you love it, because you don’t know what else to do, or because you must do it or face starvation. Why is very important here.