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Thanks Microsoft for open-sourcing VS Code Server

50 points by tomvault 5y ago

minhazm 5y ago
I couldn't find an announcement from Microsoft about this, but it did happen in this commit: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/commit/822f995357f725216cdee6e05f1f1552ccbbd882 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/commit/822f995357f725216...
- ghuntley 5y ago
  Yup. If you switch to the ‘Insiders’ channel (account settings panel on the dashboard) on Gitpod then you will be running these bits on Gitpod.
ushakov 5y ago
i really like Gitpod as a company, but i'm wondering what's their survival plan as they're competing with Microsoft?
- manquer 5y ago
  Not that different from gitlab? There are some (enough) Enterprise needs that MS is unable or uninterested to do. Usually stuff like on-premise( at lower price than what MS) or significant customization or some features/extensibility. At MS scale these are not viable things to do, but smaller companies don't have the same concerns. Also getting bought by MS or another large player is always an option.
- rektide 5y ago
  continue to drive open source. continue to believe there's a non-proprietary community worth investing in. continue moving the ball forward & making microsoft also have to keep open sourcing. it's less about what's their survival plan, and more about what the rest of all of us are going to do with vscode taking over the planet.
- kodah 5y ago
  GitHub isn't the only VCS provider. There's GitLab and SourceHut and there will likely be more in the future as standards coalesce. That's where open source thrives: strong and proven standards. Once VCS hosting becomes fairly standardized then Open Source will take over and the innovation cycle will start again.
- phillipcarter 5y ago
  Another flavor of the "focused startup vs. big company portfolio" story. A small, scrappy team can do incredible things and find product-market fit despite having a gargantuan competitor. A big company can lose the plot with big staffing overheads, internal politics, and being tugged in a million different directions by users/customers. Of course a big company can also be laser-focused and leverage their vast cash sums and engineering weight to dominate the space. But in my experience, that's pretty rare.
naikrovek 5y ago
ok I didn't know they opened that. that's wonderful.
waterglassFull 5y ago
What's up with the title? Assuming they're not sending a cake due to covid and remote working etc - makes it seem very clickbaitish.
- tomvault 5y ago
  There is another story behind this https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake
  - infogulch 5y ago
    Ok that's cute, but hn guidelines say the the post title should match the published title. The flexibility is for necessary shortening or scrubbing clickbait, not for editorializing. > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- gnabgib 5y ago
  It's in reference to this story (from 63 days ago): "Gitpod shipped GitHub a launch cake for Codespaces (gitpod.io)" [0], original article [1] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28405026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28405026 [1]: https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake
- guessmyname 5y ago
  If anyone is curious, user “tomvault” submitted this post with the following title: > Microsoft open-sourcing VS Code Server and Gitpod won’t send them a cake … which was later changed to: > Thanks Microsoft for open-sourcing VS Code Server
- msoad 5y ago
  Maybe related to Firefox/Chrome cake history...
  - pfranz 5y ago
pxc 5y ago
Do you still need to use the proprietary version of VSCode (i.e., not VSCodium) to actually use the client-side features?

50 points by tomvault 5y ago

I couldn't find an announcement from Microsoft about this, but it did happen in this commit: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/commit/822f995357f725216cdee6e05f1f1552ccbbd882 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/commit/822f995357f725216...

ghuntley 5y ago
Yup. If you switch to the ‘Insiders’ channel (account settings panel on the dashboard) on Gitpod then you will be running these bits on Gitpod.

ushakov 5y ago

i really like Gitpod as a company, but i'm wondering what's their survival plan as they're competing with Microsoft?

manquer 5y ago
Not that different from gitlab? There are some (enough) Enterprise needs that MS is unable or uninterested to do. Usually stuff like on-premise( at lower price than what MS) or significant customization or some features/extensibility. At MS scale these are not viable things to do, but smaller companies don't have the same concerns. Also getting bought by MS or another large player is always an option.
rektide 5y ago
continue to drive open source. continue to believe there's a non-proprietary community worth investing in. continue moving the ball forward & making microsoft also have to keep open sourcing. it's less about what's their survival plan, and more about what the rest of all of us are going to do with vscode taking over the planet.
kodah 5y ago
GitHub isn't the only VCS provider. There's GitLab and SourceHut and there will likely be more in the future as standards coalesce. That's where open source thrives: strong and proven standards. Once VCS hosting becomes fairly standardized then Open Source will take over and the innovation cycle will start again.
phillipcarter 5y ago
Another flavor of the "focused startup vs. big company portfolio" story. A small, scrappy team can do incredible things and find product-market fit despite having a gargantuan competitor. A big company can lose the plot with big staffing overheads, internal politics, and being tugged in a million different directions by users/customers. Of course a big company can also be laser-focused and leverage their vast cash sums and engineering weight to dominate the space. But in my experience, that's pretty rare.

naikrovek 5y ago

ok I didn't know they opened that. that's wonderful.

waterglassFull 5y ago

What's up with the title? Assuming they're not sending a cake due to covid and remote working etc - makes it seem very clickbaitish.

tomvault 5y ago
There is another story behind this https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake
- infogulch 5y ago
  Ok that's cute, but hn guidelines say the the post title should match the published title. The flexibility is for necessary shortening or scrubbing clickbait, not for editorializing. > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
gnabgib 5y ago
It's in reference to this story (from 63 days ago): "Gitpod shipped GitHub a launch cake for Codespaces (gitpod.io)" [0], original article [1] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28405026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28405026 [1]: https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake https://www.gitpod.io/blog/cake
guessmyname 5y ago
If anyone is curious, user “tomvault” submitted this post with the following title: > Microsoft open-sourcing VS Code Server and Gitpod won’t send them a cake … which was later changed to: > Thanks Microsoft for open-sourcing VS Code Server
msoad 5y ago
Maybe related to Firefox/Chrome cake history...
- pfranz 5y ago

pxc 5y ago

Do you still need to use the proprietary version of VSCode (i.e., not VSCodium) to actually use the client-side features?