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You have no way of proving mRNA is safe long term. People need to stop with that blanket statement.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
mRNA is naturally occurring and all the issues are from the adjuvants. It’s like complaining about amino acids, plasma or cells. The vaccine efficiency rate drops by about half in 5 months, it’s not a sturdy permanence. If you are so worried about mRNA, why are you not concerned about its natural occurance in your body since mRNA isn't provent to be safe?
- josh_today 5y ago
  No way of proving mRNA vaccines are safe long term
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Just like how your platlets, ribosomes, mitocondria and other natural classes of biologicals that naturally occur inside you are not proven to be safe.
    - m0zg 5y ago
      And dihydrogen monoxide is often used as engine coolant. Let's not get ridiculous here. The concerns are reasonable: this is the first time this technology has been deployed at scale. Using it is a risk, and not using it is also a risk (COVID is no picnic either), and one must look at the data before making decisions, if one is able to make data-driven decisions at all.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        mRNA as a class is safe. That is not a debate. If he’s worried about the current mRNA vaccine as a single entity he can say that or it’s effects. But he stated there is no evidence mRNA is safe. That is ridiculous as being afraid of your own shadows and that concern is not reasonable. He later says mRNA vaccines aren’t proven to be safe, which is what my post states due to externalities. But he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and can’t state any clear concerns because he’s not done any research but thinks his uninformed opinion based on ignorance without any evidence for his skeptical blanket statements is merited.
        m0zg 5y ago
        > mRNA as a class is safe. That's like saying "chemicals are safe". I'm pretty sure the same folks who created the Moderna vaccine could just as well cook up a doomsday military grade pathogen using the same equipment and technology, over approximately the same period of time (a weekend). I'm not saying vax is not safe. Its safety record, while not perfect, is relatively well understood in adults (but wasn't at the outset). I'm merely saying it's a risk, that should be weighed against the benefits, which (IMO) significantly outweigh the risks for me personally, but not necessarily for someone younger or healthier.
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        That is why his statement there is no proof mRNA is safe is so ridiculous. That is not far from saying that there is no proof chemicals are safe. I don’t think we have any disagreement, I agree with you. It’s just ridiculous uninformed blanket skepticism I disagree with.

mRNA is naturally occurring and all the issues are from the adjuvants. It’s like complaining about amino acids, plasma or cells. The vaccine efficiency rate drops by about half in 5 months, it’s not a sturdy permanence. If you are so worried about mRNA, why are you not concerned about its natural occurance in your body since mRNA isn't provent to be safe?

josh_today 5y ago
No way of proving mRNA vaccines are safe long term
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Just like how your platlets, ribosomes, mitocondria and other natural classes of biologicals that naturally occur inside you are not proven to be safe.
  - m0zg 5y ago
    And dihydrogen monoxide is often used as engine coolant. Let's not get ridiculous here. The concerns are reasonable: this is the first time this technology has been deployed at scale. Using it is a risk, and not using it is also a risk (COVID is no picnic either), and one must look at the data before making decisions, if one is able to make data-driven decisions at all.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      mRNA as a class is safe. That is not a debate. If he’s worried about the current mRNA vaccine as a single entity he can say that or it’s effects. But he stated there is no evidence mRNA is safe. That is ridiculous as being afraid of your own shadows and that concern is not reasonable. He later says mRNA vaccines aren’t proven to be safe, which is what my post states due to externalities. But he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and can’t state any clear concerns because he’s not done any research but thinks his uninformed opinion based on ignorance without any evidence for his skeptical blanket statements is merited.
      - m0zg 5y ago
        > mRNA as a class is safe. That's like saying "chemicals are safe". I'm pretty sure the same folks who created the Moderna vaccine could just as well cook up a doomsday military grade pathogen using the same equipment and technology, over approximately the same period of time (a weekend). I'm not saying vax is not safe. Its safety record, while not perfect, is relatively well understood in adults (but wasn't at the outset). I'm merely saying it's a risk, that should be weighed against the benefits, which (IMO) significantly outweigh the risks for me personally, but not necessarily for someone younger or healthier.
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        That is why his statement there is no proof mRNA is safe is so ridiculous. That is not far from saying that there is no proof chemicals are safe. I don’t think we have any disagreement, I agree with you. It’s just ridiculous uninformed blanket skepticism I disagree with.