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I don't think that marriage in USA is biased against anyone. But the divorce is HEAVILY biased agains men. For example, more than 70% of divorces are initiated

by bobo888 15y ago

I don't think that marriage in USA is biased against anyone. But the divorce is HEAVILY biased agains men. For example, more than 70% of divorces are initiated by women, while they also get the custody of the children 90% of the time. When it comes for child support, it's even worse. If in a family the husband begins to get a lower salary due to the state of the economy, then everybody should/will spend less. But if a divorced father gets a lower salary, "the child's standard of living must not change". Did you earn $200,000 per year pre-divorce, and now you barely can find work for $50,000? Too bad for you, you'll have to get an extra job to be able to pay the same amount of child support. If you fail to pay, you get to jail, but the support payments accumulate, so when you get out you'll be in even more debt, which will land you back in jail, and so on. And of course, this whole time, you will be considered a "deadbeat dad". BTW, I was shocked to find out that, in some states, men* have to pay lifetime alimony. With all due respect, guys who get married on these terms are insane.

burgerbrain 15y ago
Marriage itself can be quite biased against males in the states. I have a friend who's wife successfully divorced him because she was not being "sexually satisfied". If a male tried to do the same, people would scream "domestic rape". Expectations of each sex, viewed through the lense of the courts, are very uneven. And of course after the divorce the situation only becomes more dire.
- sliverstorm 15y ago
  If only that was the worst of cases. My mind is continually blown by the cases in which husband catches wife cheating, husband sues for divorce, wife gets custody, half of assets and alimony.
whyenot 15y ago
please cite your sources
- sliverstorm 15y ago
  This is one of those things teetering on the edge of "public knowledge". I have never met a single person who believes women receive the short end of the stick in divorce. In fact the only complaint from the women's end of things I've ever heard is '50% of his income is not enough'. It is of course anecdotal, but as best I can tell, it is anecdotal evidence that is shared by every person in America- aka, 'public knowledge'.
  - pyre 15y ago
    I won't base too much too heavily on it. The idea that blacks were sub-human was once "public knowledge" because everyone had an anecdote about a black person doing something stupid. It should be stated that: * 'Common sense' is not necessarily common. * 'Public knowledge' doesn't always match up to reality and can often be influenced by social biases (i.e. you may only remember the cases of a man getting the shaft in a divorce, but easily forget the ones where he makes out like a bandit).
    - sliverstorm 15y ago
      http://web.archive.org/web/20070627182454/http://www.grant-thornton.co.uk/pages/press_room-press_releases-extra-marital_affairs_remain_biggest_cause_for_divorce_as_major_increases_in_family_strains_and_emotional_physical_abuse_also_cause_more_splits_new_survey_.html http://web.archive.org/web/20070627182454/http://www.grant-t... ^60% of divorce settlements favorable to women, 40% even, 10% favorable to men. UK, 2004. http://www.attorneys.com/legal_center/articles/child_custody/s/c/why_do_women_win_most_custody_battles/ http://www.attorneys.com/legal_center/articles/child_custody... ^10-15% of men have sole custody of children http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120700651883978623.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120700651883978623.html ^3.6% of alimony recipients are male, 2006 I am not a fountain of sources, so I hope this will do for now. A fun story illustrating how weird things are getting: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2011/02/27/man-receives-oral-sex-ordered-to-pay-child-support/ http://mensnewsdaily.com/2011/02/27/man-receives-oral-sex-or...
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by bobo888 15y ago

burgerbrain 15y ago

Marriage itself can be quite biased against males in the states. I have a friend who's wife successfully divorced him because she was not being "sexually satisfied". If a male tried to do the same, people would scream "domestic rape". Expectations of each sex, viewed through the lense of the courts, are very uneven. And of course after the divorce the situation only becomes more dire.

sliverstorm 15y ago
If only that was the worst of cases. My mind is continually blown by the cases in which husband catches wife cheating, husband sues for divorce, wife gets custody, half of assets and alimony.

whyenot 15y ago

please cite your sources

sliverstorm 15y ago
This is one of those things teetering on the edge of "public knowledge". I have never met a single person who believes women receive the short end of the stick in divorce. In fact the only complaint from the women's end of things I've ever heard is '50% of his income is not enough'. It is of course anecdotal, but as best I can tell, it is anecdotal evidence that is shared by every person in America- aka, 'public knowledge'.
- pyre 15y ago
  I won't base too much too heavily on it. The idea that blacks were sub-human was once "public knowledge" because everyone had an anecdote about a black person doing something stupid. It should be stated that: * 'Common sense' is not necessarily common. * 'Public knowledge' doesn't always match up to reality and can often be influenced by social biases (i.e. you may only remember the cases of a man getting the shaft in a divorce, but easily forget the ones where he makes out like a bandit).
  - sliverstorm 15y ago
    http://web.archive.org/web/20070627182454/http://www.grant-thornton.co.uk/pages/press_room-press_releases-extra-marital_affairs_remain_biggest_cause_for_divorce_as_major_increases_in_family_strains_and_emotional_physical_abuse_also_cause_more_splits_new_survey_.html http://web.archive.org/web/20070627182454/http://www.grant-t... ^60% of divorce settlements favorable to women, 40% even, 10% favorable to men. UK, 2004. http://www.attorneys.com/legal_center/articles/child_custody/s/c/why_do_women_win_most_custody_battles/ http://www.attorneys.com/legal_center/articles/child_custody... ^10-15% of men have sole custody of children http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120700651883978623.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120700651883978623.html ^3.6% of alimony recipients are male, 2006 I am not a fountain of sources, so I hope this will do for now. A fun story illustrating how weird things are getting: http://mensnewsdaily.com/2011/02/27/man-receives-oral-sex-ordered-to-pay-child-support/ http://mensnewsdaily.com/2011/02/27/man-receives-oral-sex-or...
    - 15y ago