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You're describing situational depression. Very different than major depressive disorder or dysthymia for which these drugs are often prescribed. Common mistake.

iammisc 5y ago
'Major depressive disorder' is just situational depression applied to every situation. Common mistake. Many psychiatrists and psychologists make the same mistake. Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety, so we probably shouldn't be looking to them for great advice.
- vettedvat 5y ago
  Wrong again, a psychologist would not make that mistake. They know what those words mean; you just googled them. Luckily you didn't even try explain away dysthymia from your armchair because, well, you have nothing to stand on. > Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    > Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation. Not at all. More educated people tend to be more anxious and more depressed. https://www.originsrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/High-intelligence-risk-factor-for-psychological-and-physiological-health.pdf https://www.originsrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/H... The fact that we trust those more prone to depression to solve depression should not be discounted. When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. We've labeled anything other than that as diseased. As I stated elsewhere, I do not believe in happiness. Most of my day is spent neither sad nor happy. Were I to be sad all the time, I don't think that's particularly interesting either. Our society is not set up with space for people to not be happy. Society is ill, not the people.
    - vettedvat 5y ago
      Your study says that some of 3715 mensa members were depressed. Not that "many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety." So yeah, blind speculation. > When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. Completely wrong, again. You can experience situational depression without having dysthymia. You just don't know what these words mean.
      - dang 5y ago
        I've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html It's particularly important not to be an asshole when you're arguing for a position which is actually true. Doing that discredits the truth, and that hurts everyone. (I don't know if what you're arguing here is true, but since you seem to be sure that it is, you should be treating it more carefully.)
        vettedvat 5y ago
        The parent seeks to discredit the legitimacy of all mental disease, based on a study of a handful of Mensa members from 2016. Does that "discredit the truth?" Their original comment was flagged and removed. Sorry, who's the "asshole" again?
        dang 5y ago
        That's irrelevant to whether you broke the site guidelines. They apply regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is.

iammisc 5y ago

'Major depressive disorder' is just situational depression applied to every situation. Common mistake. Many psychiatrists and psychologists make the same mistake. Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety, so we probably shouldn't be looking to them for great advice.

vettedvat 5y ago
Wrong again, a psychologist would not make that mistake. They know what those words mean; you just googled them. Luckily you didn't even try explain away dysthymia from your armchair because, well, you have nothing to stand on. > Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation.
- iammisc 5y ago
  > Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation. Not at all. More educated people tend to be more anxious and more depressed. https://www.originsrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/High-intelligence-risk-factor-for-psychological-and-physiological-health.pdf https://www.originsrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/H... The fact that we trust those more prone to depression to solve depression should not be discounted. When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. We've labeled anything other than that as diseased. As I stated elsewhere, I do not believe in happiness. Most of my day is spent neither sad nor happy. Were I to be sad all the time, I don't think that's particularly interesting either. Our society is not set up with space for people to not be happy. Society is ill, not the people.
  - vettedvat 5y ago
    Your study says that some of 3715 mensa members were depressed. Not that "many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety." So yeah, blind speculation. > When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. Completely wrong, again. You can experience situational depression without having dysthymia. You just don't know what these words mean.
    - dang 5y ago
      I've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html It's particularly important not to be an asshole when you're arguing for a position which is actually true. Doing that discredits the truth, and that hurts everyone. (I don't know if what you're arguing here is true, but since you seem to be sure that it is, you should be treating it more carefully.)
      - vettedvat 5y ago
        The parent seeks to discredit the legitimacy of all mental disease, based on a study of a handful of Mensa members from 2016. Does that "discredit the truth?" Their original comment was flagged and removed. Sorry, who's the "asshole" again?
        dang 5y ago
        That's irrelevant to whether you broke the site guidelines. They apply regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is.