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I don’t say they’re not spicing conversations by promoting provoking content. What I rather say is that all media companies do it and they don’t get a similar P

by nme01 5y ago

I don’t say they’re not spicing conversations by promoting provoking content. What I rather say is that all media companies do it and they don’t get a similar PR which they well deserve. As an exercise one can watch today’s news and count how many news made them angry vs. how many were neutral/positive.

jquery 5y ago
It is to Facebook’s great delight that you are repeating its own talking points. > they don’t get a similar PR which they well deserve. Not sure where this came from. We just had a leader spend four years calling them fake news. Why don’t you name an organization instead of just referring to “the media” (which includes everything from Infowars to The Intercept).
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  For a concrete example, I just checked CNN's website, and the top article is about a pretrial ruling by the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case that the prosecutors should avoid using the word "victim". I don't see any plausible argument that this is the most important news story in the country this morning - if you had only 5 minutes to read the news, you'd be much better served by their articles about Facebook's ranking system or progress on Covid vaccine approval for kids. But it very well might be the most provocative!
  - b3morales 5y ago
    Checking now (about half an hour later), I see a half-dozen stories about the "Rust" movie shooting (a video statement by a sheriff as the top headline), with Rittenhouse just below that. Do you have a reason to believe these are being ranked by some kind of editorial interest and not simply by new-ness?
    - SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
      Like the Facebook timeline (and I don't think that's a coincidence!), newness is a big factor but not the only factor. They publish their "top stories" section as an RSS feed (http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss), and you can see it's both not strictly chronological and clearly has editorial topic selection, as opposed to their "most recent" feed (http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_latest.rss http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_latest.rss) which seems to be a true chronological order of everything they publish.
kwertyoowiyop 5y ago
This sounds like someone said “black lives matter” and the response was “ALL lives matter.”

by nme01 5y ago

jquery 5y ago

It is to Facebook’s great delight that you are repeating its own talking points. > they don’t get a similar PR which they well deserve. Not sure where this came from. We just had a leader spend four years calling them fake news. Why don’t you name an organization instead of just referring to “the media” (which includes everything from Infowars to The Intercept).

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
For a concrete example, I just checked CNN's website, and the top article is about a pretrial ruling by the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case that the prosecutors should avoid using the word "victim". I don't see any plausible argument that this is the most important news story in the country this morning - if you had only 5 minutes to read the news, you'd be much better served by their articles about Facebook's ranking system or progress on Covid vaccine approval for kids. But it very well might be the most provocative!
- b3morales 5y ago
  Checking now (about half an hour later), I see a half-dozen stories about the "Rust" movie shooting (a video statement by a sheriff as the top headline), with Rittenhouse just below that. Do you have a reason to believe these are being ranked by some kind of editorial interest and not simply by new-ness?
  - SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
    Like the Facebook timeline (and I don't think that's a coincidence!), newness is a big factor but not the only factor. They publish their "top stories" section as an RSS feed (http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss), and you can see it's both not strictly chronological and clearly has editorial topic selection, as opposed to their "most recent" feed (http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_latest.rss http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_latest.rss) which seems to be a true chronological order of everything they publish.

kwertyoowiyop 5y ago

This sounds like someone said “black lives matter” and the response was “ALL lives matter.”