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I think he’s implying if he had that outlet, maybe heroin would have never been encountered.

by costcopizza 5y ago

dustintrex 5y ago
He was first prescribed opiates for an injury.
- nwienert 5y ago
  Just to throw in my 2c, I’ve had dilaudid a few times for an injury and other opiates for various reasons, and while they feel great, they really never cross my mind much and I don’t hold them close to many sober experiences. Not even as good as other drugs, of which I could list 3-4 I’d consider as or more enjoyable. The above comment feels like a really dramatic description of opiates. I don’t think most anyone with a moderately stable life is at risk of addiction trying them.
  - musicale 5y ago
    As I understand it, even mild pain medications like ibuprofen (for women though apparently not for men) and acetominophen can relieve emotional pain as well as physical pain. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180206090700.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180206090700.h... https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-courage-our-conniptions/201008/can-tylenol-ease-broken-heart https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-courage-our-conn...
  - c23gooey 5y ago
    I think people experience the euphoria of opiates differently. Anecdotally - i've never found opiates compelling. I appreciate their ability to numb severe pain, but they don't do anything for me as a mental release. Whereas a good friend is the opposite, he loves the feeling opiates give him and gets quite a kick out of them. He is very careful around them because he understands that he could easily slip into a full blown addiction with them. BTW - this friend has a stable job, a loving wife and 2 kids.
    - jamiek88 5y ago
      My wife had chemo and was given oxycodone. She hated it as it just made her nauseous. I had one low dose 5mg pill of hers and suddenly felt as if everything was finally right, the euphoria was there but it was more. ‘I finally feel normal’. It was dramatic and I’ve been battling the temptation ever since. I wish I’d never tried it.
  - s5300 5y ago
    > feels like a really dramatic description of opiates. I don’t think most anyone with a moderately stable life is at risk of addiction trying them. A few years back, perhaps close to a decade ago, there was a fairly well known reporter/journalist who said this same thing. Of course, he was cocky enough to test his presumptions & tried either some form of opiate or heroin, can't recall exactly which. He by all means had a happy and successful life/family. He ended up getting horribly addicted & there was a good writeup/documentation of everything that happened. I'm having issues finding the article right now though. Also, anesthesiologists, one of the highest paid, disciplined, and well respected jobs you can get, are also one of the highest risk groups for severe drug addiction. I think your presumptions are quite incorrect and crass.
    - Multiplayer 5y ago
      This took place in real time on reddit, pretty much. If not this exact case - very close to it. You can search for it.
      - sodality2 5y ago
        SpontaneousH, was his name.
    - dustintrex 5y ago
      Summary here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spontaneoush_uses_heroin_gets_addicted_dies_gets/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spon...

I think he’s implying if he had that outlet, maybe heroin would have never been encountered.

dustintrex 5y ago

He was first prescribed opiates for an injury.

nwienert 5y ago
Just to throw in my 2c, I’ve had dilaudid a few times for an injury and other opiates for various reasons, and while they feel great, they really never cross my mind much and I don’t hold them close to many sober experiences. Not even as good as other drugs, of which I could list 3-4 I’d consider as or more enjoyable. The above comment feels like a really dramatic description of opiates. I don’t think most anyone with a moderately stable life is at risk of addiction trying them.
- musicale 5y ago
  As I understand it, even mild pain medications like ibuprofen (for women though apparently not for men) and acetominophen can relieve emotional pain as well as physical pain. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180206090700.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180206090700.h... https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-courage-our-conniptions/201008/can-tylenol-ease-broken-heart https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-courage-our-conn...
- c23gooey 5y ago
  I think people experience the euphoria of opiates differently. Anecdotally - i've never found opiates compelling. I appreciate their ability to numb severe pain, but they don't do anything for me as a mental release. Whereas a good friend is the opposite, he loves the feeling opiates give him and gets quite a kick out of them. He is very careful around them because he understands that he could easily slip into a full blown addiction with them. BTW - this friend has a stable job, a loving wife and 2 kids.
  - jamiek88 5y ago
    My wife had chemo and was given oxycodone. She hated it as it just made her nauseous. I had one low dose 5mg pill of hers and suddenly felt as if everything was finally right, the euphoria was there but it was more. ‘I finally feel normal’. It was dramatic and I’ve been battling the temptation ever since. I wish I’d never tried it.
- s5300 5y ago
  > feels like a really dramatic description of opiates. I don’t think most anyone with a moderately stable life is at risk of addiction trying them. A few years back, perhaps close to a decade ago, there was a fairly well known reporter/journalist who said this same thing. Of course, he was cocky enough to test his presumptions & tried either some form of opiate or heroin, can't recall exactly which. He by all means had a happy and successful life/family. He ended up getting horribly addicted & there was a good writeup/documentation of everything that happened. I'm having issues finding the article right now though. Also, anesthesiologists, one of the highest paid, disciplined, and well respected jobs you can get, are also one of the highest risk groups for severe drug addiction. I think your presumptions are quite incorrect and crass.
  - Multiplayer 5y ago
    This took place in real time on reddit, pretty much. If not this exact case - very close to it. You can search for it.
    - sodality2 5y ago
      SpontaneousH, was his name.
  - dustintrex 5y ago
    Summary here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spontaneoush_uses_heroin_gets_addicted_dies_gets/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/68srty/spon...