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How patronizing. This is a great way to alienate all but the worst designers. No professional would ever validate such an insult with a response. "Plumbing con

by lean 15y ago

How patronizing. This is a great way to alienate all but the worst designers. No professional would ever validate such an insult with a response. "Plumbing contest!! Fix our leaky sink! Do all the work upfront, IF we like it, you'll get a gift card worth 10% of the price!"

windsurfer 15y ago
I do design work and there's no way I'd do this without some other kind of reward. If they can't pay the 500$ a typical logo costs, why bother putting $100 down?
qF 15y ago
Seeing that the project in question is mostly aiming at NGO's and non-profits I'm assuming that 'data without borders' is not a commercial enterprise. In which case it's not uncommon to have these sorts of contests where the 'reward' is meant as a 'thank you' rather than a full compensation. From a purely economical/business perspective you're (kinda) right, but from a human/charity perspective it seems rather harsh to consider this an 'insult'..
- lean 15y ago
  >NGO's and non-profits I'm assuming that 'data without borders' is not a commercial enterprise Not-for-profit doesn't mean no-profit, doesn't mean no-income, doesn't mean no-expenses. You can get a crappy logo for $500, I doubt that's beyond their operating budget. >but from a human/charity perspective it seems rather harsh to consider this an 'insult'.. Spec work is spec work, it will always be insulting. "But the guys doing the insulting are really nice!" is not an excuse.
baconner 15y ago
I don't see the problem. Its an all volunteer org and not even a formal non profit at this point as I understand it. They're planning to use donated developer/statistician/visualization designer time to help other non profits make better sense of their data at no cost. Naturally being 100% donated time based they're looking for the same kind of help from a logo designer — one that supports their goals and wants to help, doesn't care about getting paid. The prize struck me as a just to make the contest a bit more interesting factor.

by lean 15y ago

windsurfer 15y ago

I do design work and there's no way I'd do this without some other kind of reward. If they can't pay the 500$ a typical logo costs, why bother putting $100 down?

qF 15y ago

Seeing that the project in question is mostly aiming at NGO's and non-profits I'm assuming that 'data without borders' is not a commercial enterprise. In which case it's not uncommon to have these sorts of contests where the 'reward' is meant as a 'thank you' rather than a full compensation. From a purely economical/business perspective you're (kinda) right, but from a human/charity perspective it seems rather harsh to consider this an 'insult'..

lean 15y ago
>NGO's and non-profits I'm assuming that 'data without borders' is not a commercial enterprise Not-for-profit doesn't mean no-profit, doesn't mean no-income, doesn't mean no-expenses. You can get a crappy logo for $500, I doubt that's beyond their operating budget. >but from a human/charity perspective it seems rather harsh to consider this an 'insult'.. Spec work is spec work, it will always be insulting. "But the guys doing the insulting are really nice!" is not an excuse.

baconner 15y ago

I don't see the problem. Its an all volunteer org and not even a formal non profit at this point as I understand it. They're planning to use donated developer/statistician/visualization designer time to help other non profits make better sense of their data at no cost. Naturally being 100% donated time based they're looking for the same kind of help from a logo designer — one that supports their goals and wants to help, doesn't care about getting paid. The prize struck me as a just to make the contest a bit more interesting factor.