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I made the switch from DDG to Startpage.com the day when Bing/DDG censored "tank man" results on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square, haven't looked back. I do

I made the switch from DDG to Startpage.com the day when Bing/DDG censored "tank man" results on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square, haven't looked back. I do miss the !bangs, so I have a browser shortcut to access those when I need them.

freeflight 5y ago
Startpage.com uses Google results, which besides having become kinda useless, have their own issue with censorship [0] [0] https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/goog-n04.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/goog-n04.html
- Djrhfbfnsks 5y ago
  Google is also censoring a large list of search terms when used in combination with reddit. For example, you'll get zero results for "site:reddit.com underage".
  - djhn 5y ago
    How did you discover this? Any more examples?
    - Djrhfbfnsks 5y ago
      I was trying to find information about a recent scandal and was surprised that I couldn't find any discussion on reddit. Restricting the results to reddit.com made it clear what was going on. These search terms are not censored on Yandex. It seems that they've recently removed some search terms from the blacklist. If I remember correctly, the terms I had searched originally were "qanon" and "pizzagate" , but those are no longer censored. "pedo" and "jailbait" still trigger the censor though.
elwell 5y ago
Too privacy-conscious for DuckDuckGo? That's next level trend setting.
zic 5y ago
I find it interesting that to this day, a search for the phrase “Bing/DDG censored 'tank man' results on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square“ returns very few results in DDG, but several pages in Google. I would not cite this as an example of why to use one search engine over another. It's a good example of why to use more than one search engine.
hyproxia 5y ago
You're talking about the "tank man" that was safely escorted out of the scene without getting harmed? What about him? https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk
- J5892 5y ago
  The point is that the photo was censored by a significant US search engine. Also, let's not ignore that the CCP murdered somewhere between 300 and 10,000 Chinese citizens the day before he stood in front of the tank.
- emayljames 5y ago
  The only people killed where unarmed soldiers, that where burned alive by protesters.
  - J5892 5y ago
    Even the official CCP numbers disagree with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Official_figures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests... > On June 19, Beijing Party Secretary Li Ximing reported to the Politburo that the government's confirmed death toll was 241, including 218 civilians (of which 36 were students), 10 PLA soldiers, and 13 People's Armed Police, along with 7,000 wounded. But the actual number of deaths is likely much higher.
    - falcolas 5y ago
      Sounds like those numbers have been “fixed” as the narrative has evolved over the intervening years.
      - J5892 5y ago
        I'm not up to date with the current official narrative, but I can only assume it's that there was a large picnic that day and someone accidentally spilled a giant jar of raspberry jam. But it was an otherwise pleasant day with exactly zero humans crushed by tanks or otherwise killed.

freeflight 5y ago

Startpage.com uses Google results, which besides having become kinda useless, have their own issue with censorship [0] [0] https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/goog-n04.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/goog-n04.html

Djrhfbfnsks 5y ago
Google is also censoring a large list of search terms when used in combination with reddit. For example, you'll get zero results for "site:reddit.com underage".
- djhn 5y ago
  How did you discover this? Any more examples?
  - Djrhfbfnsks 5y ago
    I was trying to find information about a recent scandal and was surprised that I couldn't find any discussion on reddit. Restricting the results to reddit.com made it clear what was going on. These search terms are not censored on Yandex. It seems that they've recently removed some search terms from the blacklist. If I remember correctly, the terms I had searched originally were "qanon" and "pizzagate" , but those are no longer censored. "pedo" and "jailbait" still trigger the censor though.

elwell 5y ago

Too privacy-conscious for DuckDuckGo? That's next level trend setting.

zic 5y ago

I find it interesting that to this day, a search for the phrase “Bing/DDG censored 'tank man' results on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square“ returns very few results in DDG, but several pages in Google. I would not cite this as an example of why to use one search engine over another. It's a good example of why to use more than one search engine.

hyproxia 5y ago

You're talking about the "tank man" that was safely escorted out of the scene without getting harmed? What about him? https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk https://youtu.be/qq8zFLIftGk

J5892 5y ago
The point is that the photo was censored by a significant US search engine. Also, let's not ignore that the CCP murdered somewhere between 300 and 10,000 Chinese citizens the day before he stood in front of the tank.
emayljames 5y ago
The only people killed where unarmed soldiers, that where burned alive by protesters.
- J5892 5y ago
  Even the official CCP numbers disagree with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Official_figures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests... > On June 19, Beijing Party Secretary Li Ximing reported to the Politburo that the government's confirmed death toll was 241, including 218 civilians (of which 36 were students), 10 PLA soldiers, and 13 People's Armed Police, along with 7,000 wounded. But the actual number of deaths is likely much higher.
  - falcolas 5y ago
    Sounds like those numbers have been “fixed” as the narrative has evolved over the intervening years.
    - J5892 5y ago
      I'm not up to date with the current official narrative, but I can only assume it's that there was a large picnic that day and someone accidentally spilled a giant jar of raspberry jam. But it was an otherwise pleasant day with exactly zero humans crushed by tanks or otherwise killed.