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I want someone that can sell what I've built.

by notenoughbeans 5y ago

anonymouse008 5y ago
What have you built?
- notenoughbeans 5y ago
  I have created some low-code, zero-code devtools for personal use I want to polish and get on the market.
  - anonymouse008 5y ago
    Hot market right now -- have a (public) readme / repo / anything?
    - notenoughbeans 5y ago
      Still a work in progress. I'm planning on sharing it once it's more ready.
      - andrewnc 5y ago
        As they say in the start up world "Ship It!" I've seen lots of advice that says people ship too late. I'm not sure if that's the case here, but something to consider.
      - Grimm1 5y ago
        In my experience that's a trap, if you have a small set of useable features, release it now and get feedback from real people.
      - halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
        Don't pay attention to the other "just ship it" comments, it'll be ready when it's ready. Too many people like to walk out that trite phrase when they have no knowledge on what you're doing or where you're at yet want to seem like they know something you don't. It's annoying.
        Grimm1 5y ago
        First, at least in regards to my comment -- that's entirely reductionist. Second, I commented because it's one of the hardest things, in my opinion as an engineer myself, to overcome. You're interpretation of people wanting to seem like someone knows something they don't is at best uncharitable. My comment comes from a place of hopefully being helpful and giving someone a nudge for a thing that is definitely uncomfortable (showing your baby to the world) and showing some sense of camaraderie that a lot of us have been there.
        halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
        It might seem helpful but it's not. Obviously this is my opinion but it's disrespectful to the engineer doing the work to essentially shame them into releasing something that they have a vision for early. Who knows what shape it's in, who knows if it's bugged? Releasing something to just get it out there and it's so bugged, the users run away. I understand why you are saying what you are saying but maybe try to look at it from a different perspective because whenever someone says that to me, it's demeaning. I (we) know what we're doing and perfectly capable of judging when something is "done".
        Grimm1 5y ago
        Edit: I'll make a quick edit because the below sounded too aggressive to me after reading it again like two minutes later. Your point that not everyone takes unsolicited advice well because it feels like it undermines their own skill and knowledge is noted and I have run into people who think similarly to you, but I think it's helpful more than not to a wider group of people and it helped me so I will consider the thought in a given situation but I will likely continue to give the advice. ---- Right which is why I qualified it with "If you have a small set of useable features". Honestly, feeling shamed is your hang up, same with feeling demeaned. I've had that said to me and it motivated me and was helpful, because I had been holding back. I guess we'll agree to disagree because I don't know you and I don't want to like armchair psychology here. But, I'm certainly not going to tiptoe around every word though just because someone somewhere may be offended, especially in this case where I believe most people would find it helpful.
- short12 5y ago
  What have you sold is a far far more important question
short12 5y ago
This is what I thought I had. But in reality both cofounders need to be hard sales people first and foremost and building shit becomes a distant 2nd priority. But I agree with you a hundred percent. That's the ideal situation for someone that likes to build
hunterb123 5y ago
This. I love developing, marketing, and branding but I have no connections. I want someone to handle people and let me handle product.
jollybean 5y ago
1) You want someone who can tell you what will sell, if you build it. 2) Also, it's never clear. So you want someone who you can work with to forge a path through the jungle.
yarcob 5y ago
I've met (and worked with) people who built something, and were looking for someone to sell it. The unfortunate truth is that this usually doesn't work because of two reasons: 1) If you can't convince anybody to buy your product, you also won't be able to convince anybody to sell your product. You need to be able to at least sell your idea to the cofounder. 2) If you've never tried selling your product, and have never interacted with your customers, chances are that what you built doesn't solve anybodys problem. I've never seen a successful product that was a hit right away without any user testing and iteration based on user feedback, but some people are convinced their product is different.

I want someone that can sell what I've built.

anonymouse008 5y ago

What have you built?

notenoughbeans 5y ago
I have created some low-code, zero-code devtools for personal use I want to polish and get on the market.
- anonymouse008 5y ago
  Hot market right now -- have a (public) readme / repo / anything?
  - notenoughbeans 5y ago
    Still a work in progress. I'm planning on sharing it once it's more ready.
    - andrewnc 5y ago
      As they say in the start up world "Ship It!" I've seen lots of advice that says people ship too late. I'm not sure if that's the case here, but something to consider.
    - Grimm1 5y ago
      In my experience that's a trap, if you have a small set of useable features, release it now and get feedback from real people.
    - halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
      Don't pay attention to the other "just ship it" comments, it'll be ready when it's ready. Too many people like to walk out that trite phrase when they have no knowledge on what you're doing or where you're at yet want to seem like they know something you don't. It's annoying.
      - Grimm1 5y ago
        First, at least in regards to my comment -- that's entirely reductionist. Second, I commented because it's one of the hardest things, in my opinion as an engineer myself, to overcome. You're interpretation of people wanting to seem like someone knows something they don't is at best uncharitable. My comment comes from a place of hopefully being helpful and giving someone a nudge for a thing that is definitely uncomfortable (showing your baby to the world) and showing some sense of camaraderie that a lot of us have been there.
        halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
        It might seem helpful but it's not. Obviously this is my opinion but it's disrespectful to the engineer doing the work to essentially shame them into releasing something that they have a vision for early. Who knows what shape it's in, who knows if it's bugged? Releasing something to just get it out there and it's so bugged, the users run away. I understand why you are saying what you are saying but maybe try to look at it from a different perspective because whenever someone says that to me, it's demeaning. I (we) know what we're doing and perfectly capable of judging when something is "done".
        Grimm1 5y ago
        Edit: I'll make a quick edit because the below sounded too aggressive to me after reading it again like two minutes later. Your point that not everyone takes unsolicited advice well because it feels like it undermines their own skill and knowledge is noted and I have run into people who think similarly to you, but I think it's helpful more than not to a wider group of people and it helped me so I will consider the thought in a given situation but I will likely continue to give the advice. ---- Right which is why I qualified it with "If you have a small set of useable features". Honestly, feeling shamed is your hang up, same with feeling demeaned. I've had that said to me and it motivated me and was helpful, because I had been holding back. I guess we'll agree to disagree because I don't know you and I don't want to like armchair psychology here. But, I'm certainly not going to tiptoe around every word though just because someone somewhere may be offended, especially in this case where I believe most people would find it helpful.
short12 5y ago
What have you sold is a far far more important question

short12 5y ago

This is what I thought I had. But in reality both cofounders need to be hard sales people first and foremost and building shit becomes a distant 2nd priority. But I agree with you a hundred percent. That's the ideal situation for someone that likes to build

hunterb123 5y ago

This. I love developing, marketing, and branding but I have no connections. I want someone to handle people and let me handle product.

jollybean 5y ago

1) You want someone who can tell you what will sell, if you build it. 2) Also, it's never clear. So you want someone who you can work with to forge a path through the jungle.

yarcob 5y ago

I've met (and worked with) people who built something, and were looking for someone to sell it. The unfortunate truth is that this usually doesn't work because of two reasons: 1) If you can't convince anybody to buy your product, you also won't be able to convince anybody to sell your product. You need to be able to at least sell your idea to the cofounder. 2) If you've never tried selling your product, and have never interacted with your customers, chances are that what you built doesn't solve anybodys problem. I've never seen a successful product that was a hit right away without any user testing and iteration based on user feedback, but some people are convinced their product is different.