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Dell Precision with Xeon CPU … this thing doesn’t even have ECC ram, so it’s a toy and not suitable for actual pros. Seriously though, your comment lacks, beca

Dell Precision with Xeon CPU … this thing doesn’t even have ECC ram, so it’s a toy and not suitable for actual pros. Seriously though, your comment lacks, because of your very narrow and specific definition of „pro“. The vast majority of people using laptops professionally, obviously prefer a MacBook Pro over a niche Dell laptop with a Xeon CPU. Also the Geekbench score for Xeon CPUs used in Dell Precision laptops is way below that of the M1 Pro.

soylentnewsorg 5y ago
It does use ECC RAM. Didn't bother reading the rest of your comment, probably something about some china virus being fake. The big question is, why would you have sex with a sheep. See, I can make up stuff too and add some sarcastic useless filler to spam this site.
- dijit 5y ago
  I’ve had enough of this. Post your part number and the model number of your ram. Anything less and you’re trolling. It is common for Dell Precisions to ship with Xeons and not ECC ram.
  - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
    here's one with ecc ram from 2 years ago. https://www.servethehome.com/dell-precision-7540-with-intel-xeon-and-ecc-memory-review/ https://www.servethehome.com/dell-precision-7540-with-intel-... in fact, i'm not sure you can even order a xeon precision w/o ecc ram. but i'm not here to do your research for you for things you can look up in a minute. you're the one that claimed a xeon precision doesn't come w/ ecc ram, without even googling it. my laptop is a 7660. I also have an i7 5560, and a latitude 7410 w/ an I7. It's what work gives me for work - and yes, I use all 3 since we went full remote. For "pro" work. The M1 laptop is comparable to my 7410 - which I use to play online games and chromecast videos. Not any real work. It's a kids toy compared to my 7660. since you seem to be lost here on this tech site, instead of hanging out on reddit with your peers: all xeon CPUs support ECC ram. If you want you can go on ebay, buy ECC ram, and put it in any Xeon system. Or, you know, just order it w/ ECC ram from Dell. >It is common for Dell Precisions to ship with Xeons and not ECC ram. correct. because most come with 16 or 32GB or RAM, and are the low end of Dell's pro line. Once you get a lot of RAM, like 64 or 128GB, and you're crunching numbers and running VMs, your chances of a memory error go up dramatically. Which is why you need ECC RAM. Which has zero to do with your post that I was replying to, claiming precisions don't have ecc ram. now find me an m1 laptop with 128GB of ECC RAM. Because you're right - "Enough" strawman astroturfing from you. The M1 is a Latitude competitor - not a Precision competitor. Apple's "pro" line is considered mid-tier from other vendors. Their tests showing it beats xeons are comparing xeons released 2 years ago, that for some reason they used in their apple laptops. Because Apple has always used outdated CPUs compared to everyone else.
    - dijit 5y ago
      I don’t need to google it when I own such a system. My precision did not ship with ECC ram. ECC also needs to be supported by the motherboard; all AMD Ryzen chips have ECC enabled but due to limited motherboard support: many are not able to effectively use ECC. If you have the time could you share the output of `sudo dmidecode —type 17`?
      - dijit 5y ago
        Edit: That laptop (much heavier and much much more power hungry) still doesn’t beat an M1 at Dells max configuration, it certainly doesn’t beat it 5x over. For the Xeon W-11955M 1618 Single-Core Score 9266 Multi-Core Score For the M1 Max 1770 Single-Core Score 12556 Multi-Core Score
        soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        you're looking at geekbench scores that do a bunch of GPU-offloaded stuff. and they used the low power integrated graphics, not the NVIDIA RTX in their tests - you have to explicitly select the discreet GPU for a process to use, as it defaults to the low power. so, something that doesn't even look like a mistake of taking the defaults - something that looks like deliberately lying to game the numbers.
      - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        you ordered a precision w/o ECC ram, then claim they don't support ECC RAM. you're a freaking genie. no, I can't share that output. i run windows with a bunch of vms for windows, solaris, and 2 virtual appliances (nasuni and rubrik). bbye now troll.
    - Toutouxc 5y ago
      > since you seem to be lost here on this tech site, instead of hanging out on reddit with your peers This kind of behavior makes you seem much more lost here on HN than the guy you're replying to. And looking at your downvoted and flagged posts all over the place, HN seems to agree.

soylentnewsorg 5y ago

It does use ECC RAM. Didn't bother reading the rest of your comment, probably something about some china virus being fake. The big question is, why would you have sex with a sheep. See, I can make up stuff too and add some sarcastic useless filler to spam this site.

dijit 5y ago
I’ve had enough of this. Post your part number and the model number of your ram. Anything less and you’re trolling. It is common for Dell Precisions to ship with Xeons and not ECC ram.
- soylentnewsorg 5y ago
  here's one with ecc ram from 2 years ago. https://www.servethehome.com/dell-precision-7540-with-intel-xeon-and-ecc-memory-review/ https://www.servethehome.com/dell-precision-7540-with-intel-... in fact, i'm not sure you can even order a xeon precision w/o ecc ram. but i'm not here to do your research for you for things you can look up in a minute. you're the one that claimed a xeon precision doesn't come w/ ecc ram, without even googling it. my laptop is a 7660. I also have an i7 5560, and a latitude 7410 w/ an I7. It's what work gives me for work - and yes, I use all 3 since we went full remote. For "pro" work. The M1 laptop is comparable to my 7410 - which I use to play online games and chromecast videos. Not any real work. It's a kids toy compared to my 7660. since you seem to be lost here on this tech site, instead of hanging out on reddit with your peers: all xeon CPUs support ECC ram. If you want you can go on ebay, buy ECC ram, and put it in any Xeon system. Or, you know, just order it w/ ECC ram from Dell. >It is common for Dell Precisions to ship with Xeons and not ECC ram. correct. because most come with 16 or 32GB or RAM, and are the low end of Dell's pro line. Once you get a lot of RAM, like 64 or 128GB, and you're crunching numbers and running VMs, your chances of a memory error go up dramatically. Which is why you need ECC RAM. Which has zero to do with your post that I was replying to, claiming precisions don't have ecc ram. now find me an m1 laptop with 128GB of ECC RAM. Because you're right - "Enough" strawman astroturfing from you. The M1 is a Latitude competitor - not a Precision competitor. Apple's "pro" line is considered mid-tier from other vendors. Their tests showing it beats xeons are comparing xeons released 2 years ago, that for some reason they used in their apple laptops. Because Apple has always used outdated CPUs compared to everyone else.
  - dijit 5y ago
    I don’t need to google it when I own such a system. My precision did not ship with ECC ram. ECC also needs to be supported by the motherboard; all AMD Ryzen chips have ECC enabled but due to limited motherboard support: many are not able to effectively use ECC. If you have the time could you share the output of `sudo dmidecode —type 17`?
    - dijit 5y ago
      Edit: That laptop (much heavier and much much more power hungry) still doesn’t beat an M1 at Dells max configuration, it certainly doesn’t beat it 5x over. For the Xeon W-11955M 1618 Single-Core Score 9266 Multi-Core Score For the M1 Max 1770 Single-Core Score 12556 Multi-Core Score
      - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
        you're looking at geekbench scores that do a bunch of GPU-offloaded stuff. and they used the low power integrated graphics, not the NVIDIA RTX in their tests - you have to explicitly select the discreet GPU for a process to use, as it defaults to the low power. so, something that doesn't even look like a mistake of taking the defaults - something that looks like deliberately lying to game the numbers.
    - soylentnewsorg 5y ago
      you ordered a precision w/o ECC ram, then claim they don't support ECC RAM. you're a freaking genie. no, I can't share that output. i run windows with a bunch of vms for windows, solaris, and 2 virtual appliances (nasuni and rubrik). bbye now troll.
  - Toutouxc 5y ago
    > since you seem to be lost here on this tech site, instead of hanging out on reddit with your peers This kind of behavior makes you seem much more lost here on HN than the guy you're replying to. And looking at your downvoted and flagged posts all over the place, HN seems to agree.