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Named-data networking is literally what this is describing, except NDN works as a replacement for TCP, not HTTP. In the long term I'd rather have it work at a l

Named-data networking is literally what this is describing, except NDN works as a replacement for TCP, not HTTP. In the long term I'd rather have it work at a lower level and not have to think about it much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqGEMQveoqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqGEMQveoqg

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yoursunny 5y ago
NDN can work as a replacement for IP too, running directly over Ethernet or other link layer technology.
Ericson2314 5y ago
Well IPFS, or else something like it, need to establish the network/utility, and then we can increasingly optimize it with dedicated stuff at lower layers. I don't think going straight to the hard parts is going to work without much more government policy to push through the investment -- seems strictly harder than going the 0-cost overlay-network only approach, because clearly we are demand-constrained not efficiency-constrained. I was tipped off to https://twitter.com/_John_Handel/status/1443925299394134016 https://twitter.com/_John_Handel/status/1443925299394134016 which I honestly think might be the approach to think about how networks in a broader sense than regular telecommunications are bootstrapped.
xccx 5y ago
NDN is the way p2p no huge IP infrastructure between nodes interest packets at narrow waist (like human attention, scarce) sign all packets, more secure, easier to trust|not hash for pointers, no surprises in containers crypto apply more cryptography, less web3 baloney broadcast radio native, no emulation of copper wire data, closer to where you want, find faster, keep content you want w/out intermediation, need to find "where" within IP/udp/tcp addresses https://youtu.be/P-GN-pYfRoo?t=1825 https://youtu.be/P-GN-pYfRoo?t=1825 node to node https://youtu.be/yLGzGK4c-ws?t=4817 https://youtu.be/yLGzGK4c-ws?t=4817 more application, less security hassle http://youtu.be/uvnP-_R-RYA?t=3018 http://youtu.be/uvnP-_R-RYA?t=3018 hash name the data https://youtu.be/gqGEMQveoqg&t=3006 https://youtu.be/gqGEMQveoqg&t=3006 data integrity w/out need to trust foreign server

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yoursunny 5y ago

NDN can work as a replacement for IP too, running directly over Ethernet or other link layer technology.

Ericson2314 5y ago

Well IPFS, or else something like it, need to establish the network/utility, and then we can increasingly optimize it with dedicated stuff at lower layers. I don't think going straight to the hard parts is going to work without much more government policy to push through the investment -- seems strictly harder than going the 0-cost overlay-network only approach, because clearly we are demand-constrained not efficiency-constrained. I was tipped off to https://twitter.com/_John_Handel/status/1443925299394134016 https://twitter.com/_John_Handel/status/1443925299394134016 which I honestly think might be the approach to think about how networks in a broader sense than regular telecommunications are bootstrapped.

xccx 5y ago

NDN is the way p2p no huge IP infrastructure between nodes interest packets at narrow waist (like human attention, scarce) sign all packets, more secure, easier to trust|not hash for pointers, no surprises in containers crypto apply more cryptography, less web3 baloney broadcast radio native, no emulation of copper wire data, closer to where you want, find faster, keep content you want w/out intermediation, need to find "where" within IP/udp/tcp addresses https://youtu.be/P-GN-pYfRoo?t=1825 https://youtu.be/P-GN-pYfRoo?t=1825 node to node https://youtu.be/yLGzGK4c-ws?t=4817 https://youtu.be/yLGzGK4c-ws?t=4817 more application, less security hassle http://youtu.be/uvnP-_R-RYA?t=3018 http://youtu.be/uvnP-_R-RYA?t=3018 hash name the data https://youtu.be/gqGEMQveoqg&t=3006 https://youtu.be/gqGEMQveoqg&t=3006 data integrity w/out need to trust foreign server