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Is is possible that they learned lessons about fairness and openness as a result of their experience at Facebook? Is the stain of being associated with Facebook

Is is possible that they learned lessons about fairness and openness as a result of their experience at Facebook? Is the stain of being associated with Facebook so indelible that no redemption exists? I am no fan of Facebook and encourage all current employees to quit. I do worry about a future where actions committed in ones past are considered so severe to be unforgivable. I would hate to be judged in such a manner.

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echelon 5y ago
I agree with you 100% and think it's ridiculous that we crucify people over the past when brains are clearly capable of changing over time. That said, I do think it's fine for companies to put a 12 month hiring ban in place for current Facebook employees. Such a move would speak to your organization's principles and hopefully make Facebook employees think about what their tenure at the company is doing to the world.
- russelg 5y ago
  So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea.
  - echelon 5y ago
    > So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea. I think you'd want to give Facebook employees an out, such as asking them to speak to a better vision for Facebook. Or ask them to tell you that respecting a user's privacy and not manipulating their emotions is paramount at your company. But the real intention of such a policy isn't to protect Facebook employees or make them feel safe. It's to make potential future Facebook employees think twice about seeking work there. Get them to question the things they would have to do or overlook if they chose Facebook instead of their other options. Eventually such a policy might cause the Facebook's workforce to hollow out. Society tells people that stealing and murder are wrong, and we point to the moral and judicial consequences of these actions. I don't see why similar social and career consequences for working at Facebook wouldn't help. And as you brought up, I think it's appropriate to give Facebook employees incredible latitude to side-step such a hiring ban. The goal isn't to harm the employees so much as it is to protect your own company's culture and to hopefully decrease the attractiveness of working at Facebook.

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echelon 5y ago

I agree with you 100% and think it's ridiculous that we crucify people over the past when brains are clearly capable of changing over time. That said, I do think it's fine for companies to put a 12 month hiring ban in place for current Facebook employees. Such a move would speak to your organization's principles and hopefully make Facebook employees think about what their tenure at the company is doing to the world.

russelg 5y ago
So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea.
- echelon 5y ago
  > So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea. I think you'd want to give Facebook employees an out, such as asking them to speak to a better vision for Facebook. Or ask them to tell you that respecting a user's privacy and not manipulating their emotions is paramount at your company. But the real intention of such a policy isn't to protect Facebook employees or make them feel safe. It's to make potential future Facebook employees think twice about seeking work there. Get them to question the things they would have to do or overlook if they chose Facebook instead of their other options. Eventually such a policy might cause the Facebook's workforce to hollow out. Society tells people that stealing and murder are wrong, and we point to the moral and judicial consequences of these actions. I don't see why similar social and career consequences for working at Facebook wouldn't help. And as you brought up, I think it's appropriate to give Facebook employees incredible latitude to side-step such a hiring ban. The goal isn't to harm the employees so much as it is to protect your own company's culture and to hopefully decrease the attractiveness of working at Facebook.