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> If the top of whatever Nobel prizes are handed out for remains white men nobody that doesn't fit that category will feel like they have a chance. Wow, this i

> If the top of whatever Nobel prizes are handed out for remains white men nobody that doesn't fit that category will feel like they have a chance. Wow, this is incredibly racist. So you imply you know about the motivation of all non-white non-male people on earth? And you assume they are all so chicken that looking at past winners will immediately kill all their motivation to do similar or even better? Do you actually realize what you are saying here, or are you just echoing the latest sentiment of your circles?

pjc50 5y ago
Do you think that turning what somebody said into a ridiculously exaggerated straw man will win you a nobel prize?
- mlang23 5y ago
  I need no nobel prize, thank you. That is reserved for great peace makers like Kissinger and Obama.
bwlg 5y ago
To be fair, the use of "nobody" in that sentence is a bit over-generalizing but isn't the sentiment of the sentence quite clear? If a group is a very homogeneous, outsiders might think that they're not welcome/ have lower chances of getting in. I don't have any scientific proof to back up that claim but I can certainly relate from personal experience without belonging to any minority. I think calling that "incredibly racist" and implying Cthulhu_ is just "echoing" something from their circles is quite out of line. In the future maybe you could just point out what you think is wrong with the wording instead of attacking OP personally. Also: There are things in this world which are "incredibly racist", which is beyond horrible. But do Cthulhu_'s remarks really belong into that category?
- mlang23 5y ago
  I have some experience with outsiderisms. I am an outsider almost my whole life, being a person with a disability. I always had to find my place in groups where I was the outsider. If I felt like people like you seemt o imply all the time, I would have ended up in total social isolation. And no, I never felt like me being different was a reason to not interact with these groups. Quite to the contrary. If you are an outsider, you learn quite early that this sort of thinking is masochistic. And I find it extremely problematic that these days, certain people seem to feed this false belief of not belonging. So no, I cant agree with your simple analysis, and no, I cant see the sentence I replied to as innocent either.

pjc50 5y ago

Do you think that turning what somebody said into a ridiculously exaggerated straw man will win you a nobel prize?

mlang23 5y ago
I need no nobel prize, thank you. That is reserved for great peace makers like Kissinger and Obama.

bwlg 5y ago

To be fair, the use of "nobody" in that sentence is a bit over-generalizing but isn't the sentiment of the sentence quite clear? If a group is a very homogeneous, outsiders might think that they're not welcome/ have lower chances of getting in. I don't have any scientific proof to back up that claim but I can certainly relate from personal experience without belonging to any minority. I think calling that "incredibly racist" and implying Cthulhu_ is just "echoing" something from their circles is quite out of line. In the future maybe you could just point out what you think is wrong with the wording instead of attacking OP personally. Also: There are things in this world which are "incredibly racist", which is beyond horrible. But do Cthulhu_'s remarks really belong into that category?

mlang23 5y ago
I have some experience with outsiderisms. I am an outsider almost my whole life, being a person with a disability. I always had to find my place in groups where I was the outsider. If I felt like people like you seemt o imply all the time, I would have ended up in total social isolation. And no, I never felt like me being different was a reason to not interact with these groups. Quite to the contrary. If you are an outsider, you learn quite early that this sort of thinking is masochistic. And I find it extremely problematic that these days, certain people seem to feed this false belief of not belonging. So no, I cant agree with your simple analysis, and no, I cant see the sentence I replied to as innocent either.