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I had each of them as a teacher in Denver when they taught there. Mr. Toebbe would tell me to stop “spinning my wheels” and try harder. I guess trying harder me
by hmm320 5y ago
I had each of them as a teacher in Denver when they taught there. Mr. Toebbe would tell me to stop “spinning my wheels” and try harder. I guess trying harder means selling nuclear secrets!
- iab 5y agoIf you had just worked a bit harder, you too could be under federal indictment
- SV_BubbleTime 5y agoYou know… It’s advice without context like this that isn’t helpful! Sometimes being under federal indictment is just as much luck and circumstance as it is hard work!
- thr0wawayf00 5y agoThis reminds me of a chemistry professor I had in undergrad in his 50's who repeatedly made vague remarks regarding his prior career in military intelligence (when students showed up late to class, he'd sometimes talk about the days when "Uncle Sam" would wake him up at 2AM to get on plane to an unknown destination.) It always struck me because I came from a military community and many of my teachers had served at one point or another, but nobody bragged about it like this guy did. A couple years after I left school, he was arrested for stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars in various microscopes and other lab equipment and selling it all online. It was so bizarre seeing his mugshot on the front page of the local paper.
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoAt least he didn't end up producing meth to pay for his medical bills, lol
- tartoran 5y agoThis couple just wrecked their lives and you have a story to tell. But regardless of their curent reputation, he may have meant what he said and wanted to genuinely help you but in the wrong way.
- amkkma 5y agoThey wrecked their lives in the course of a crime, as criminals do when they get caught.
- tartoran 5y agoYes but these prople weren’t really career criminals, they had respectable jobs and good lives. They got tempted with easy money and blew it all away
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- bettysdiagnose 5y agoThat makes them even worse.
- aahortwwy 5y agoNot just their lives, they have children who are still minors.
- tartoran 5y agoOuch, I did not know about that. This makes their situation radically worse. I almost feel bad for their mistake, greed got the best of them. Hope many will think twice before going for easy money. It’s not that easy after all
- bongoman37 5y agoI don't understand how reasonably smart people can trust that someone on the other end of this would not be fake like in this case or be genuine but someone else on the other end of the chain won't be a double agent and sell the information back to the host country. They are lucky to be in US, in the vast majority of the world this would result in summary executions.
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- tehjoker 5y agoWait for the jury trial because prosecutors lie and "national security" is the thing that gets lied about the most. EDIT: The other thing to watch out for is an FBI sting where they convince a guy to do something he would never have otherwise done. It seems like every publicly touted victory from them ends up that way once the truth comes out.
- hmm320 5y agoI dunno, putting an SD card in a peanut butter sandwich for a dead drop seems pretty deliberate
- tehjoker 5y agoYou wanna wait to see additional context. Sometimes allegations are completely made up, sometimes there's an alternative explanation that isn't obvious.
- hmm320 5y agoWhat are some recent examples where they falsely accuse someone of espionage?
- tehjoker 5y agoI don't know off the top of my head for a very recent one, but the case of Wen-Ho Lee in 1999 comes to mind. https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/427738-guilty-until-proven-innocent-is-a-dangerous-bylaw https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/427738-guilty-u...
- pseingatl 5y agoHow about falsely accused of terrorism? The Liberty City 7 A. Daoud Michigan Militia Assassination und und und
- Gene_Parmesan 5y agoThey made multiple drops, one for $30,000, another for $70,000, following months of correspondence. There's plenty of context if you read the link -- unless you are for some reason accusing the FBI of wholesale fabrication of a story leading to the arrest of two relatively unimportant scientists.
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