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AI/ML still feels like a nothingburger to me. Yeah i get there are some applications in some niche tasks, but we're like in the 1970s of the AI/ML revolution i

AI/ML still feels like a nothingburger to me. Yeah i get there are some applications in some niche tasks, but we're like in the 1970s of the AI/ML revolution if we compare it to the internet's timeline.

jacquesm 5y ago
The number of 'niche tasks' where it has had immediate application value is enormous, to the point where it will be quite a while before all of the low hanging fruit has been plucked, it definitely wasn't a nothingburger. I've looked at numerous start-ups over the last couple of years that managed to substantially alter the landscape they operated in on the basis of the change in the state of the art due to AI/ML.
- bcrosby95 5y ago
  Is there an easy way for the lay-tech-person to get a window into this world? It feels like the internet and mobile were a lot easier to follow. But with AI/ML, most of it seems to be stuffed in black boxes that I have no way to follow.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Possibly the various kaggle image recognition challenges would be one way: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions https://www.kaggle.com/competitions but there are plenty of others there that you might be able to relate to.
- joe_the_user 5y ago
  AI can "almost" do everything but doesn't seem to be able to fully do very many things - the self-driving car failure epitomizes things. Health care is another "promising" field where failure has been universal. Maybe some of suggestion type applications will work out but they don't quite seem like a revolutionization. Plus playing go, better astronomy image filtering and tweaking whatever server algorithms.
- spaceflunky 5y ago
  I would also add that there is going to be INCREDIBLE resistance to AI/ML applications. Both from menial AND skilled labor fronts. I've been following a dental AI startup. They've pivoted a couple times and I suspect it's because the dentists who would use this: 1.) don't want to make themselves obsolete and 2.) don't want to give credence to a robot opinion in the room. (e.g. have the insurance companies fighting them because what the AI bot says goes against whatever the dentist is saying). Another prime example is the legal industry. There is soooo much of the legal industry that can be automated. We've been saying that the legal industry will collapse for decades because of this. However, coincidentally the people who stand to be made obsolete are also the people that can legislate themselves from being obsolete.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Agreed, I see this mostly as an expert-assist thing rather than something autonomous. Otherwise you can plan your sabotage party.
    - spaceflunky 5y ago
      >Agreed, I see this mostly as an expert-assist thing Thats exactly what happened to the dental AI startup I mentioned. They started off with "we make dental care more efficient" essentially undermining the dentist, to "dentists, let us help you with your practice"
FirstLvR 5y ago
AI for marketing is diverting the science into... I don't know what it is, commercial efforts?
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otikik 5y ago
> AI/ML still feels like a nothingburger to me. And Crypto too.

jacquesm 5y ago

The number of 'niche tasks' where it has had immediate application value is enormous, to the point where it will be quite a while before all of the low hanging fruit has been plucked, it definitely wasn't a nothingburger. I've looked at numerous start-ups over the last couple of years that managed to substantially alter the landscape they operated in on the basis of the change in the state of the art due to AI/ML.

bcrosby95 5y ago
Is there an easy way for the lay-tech-person to get a window into this world? It feels like the internet and mobile were a lot easier to follow. But with AI/ML, most of it seems to be stuffed in black boxes that I have no way to follow.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Possibly the various kaggle image recognition challenges would be one way: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions https://www.kaggle.com/competitions but there are plenty of others there that you might be able to relate to.
joe_the_user 5y ago
AI can "almost" do everything but doesn't seem to be able to fully do very many things - the self-driving car failure epitomizes things. Health care is another "promising" field where failure has been universal. Maybe some of suggestion type applications will work out but they don't quite seem like a revolutionization. Plus playing go, better astronomy image filtering and tweaking whatever server algorithms.
spaceflunky 5y ago
I would also add that there is going to be INCREDIBLE resistance to AI/ML applications. Both from menial AND skilled labor fronts. I've been following a dental AI startup. They've pivoted a couple times and I suspect it's because the dentists who would use this: 1.) don't want to make themselves obsolete and 2.) don't want to give credence to a robot opinion in the room. (e.g. have the insurance companies fighting them because what the AI bot says goes against whatever the dentist is saying). Another prime example is the legal industry. There is soooo much of the legal industry that can be automated. We've been saying that the legal industry will collapse for decades because of this. However, coincidentally the people who stand to be made obsolete are also the people that can legislate themselves from being obsolete.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Agreed, I see this mostly as an expert-assist thing rather than something autonomous. Otherwise you can plan your sabotage party.
  - spaceflunky 5y ago
    >Agreed, I see this mostly as an expert-assist thing Thats exactly what happened to the dental AI startup I mentioned. They started off with "we make dental care more efficient" essentially undermining the dentist, to "dentists, let us help you with your practice"

FirstLvR 5y ago

AI for marketing is diverting the science into... I don't know what it is, commercial efforts?

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otikik 5y ago

> AI/ML still feels like a nothingburger to me. And Crypto too.