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Just goes to show the validity of anecdotes thrown around anonymously online, right?

noduerme 5y ago
No, you're just throwing around disinformation. Anecdotes aside, I think your cousin made the right decision to get the vaccine. The virus would have likely done the same and worse. Unless they could have avoided it forever, the choices would be the vax or a full assault by a live replicating virus. 700,000 people have died in the US now from it. Better to live.
- antiSingularity 5y ago
  And who gets to define my anecdote as "disinformation"? Surely you can't be saying that any story that runs counter to a particular given narrative must be false? (FWIW, it is completely true). How do you know the disease would be worse? This particular relative is in mental anguish, as the kind of statements that you just made are the only available opinions on whether you should get the vaccine. After 6 months of feeling like death, they are questioning the decision. ps. Are we ever going to re-set the Covid death count at the end of a year? At approx. 300k deaths per year in the US, Covid is the 3rd-biggest killer.
  - noduerme 5y ago
    If there was a vaccine for cancer, it wouldn't matter to anyone else if you got it. This is a virus. It's a public sacrifice. As brutal as it sounds, you and I and everyone we know had to line up against a wall, and some people were going to take a bullet for the team. I went in prepared to do that, rather than deluding myself that the virus wasn't real or that it was avoidable. When my uncles were in the Navy, they got pumped full of everything at once through an airgun in the bicep. This is jury duty, voting, your DMV test and your military service rolled into one. It's the price of living in an advanced society. I'm sorry for them - and I hope they recover - but they should be considered a hero. This is simply under the circumstances the only right thing to do.
    - antiSingularity 5y ago
      And how exactly does me getting vaccinated protect someone else? I understand that you will probably be outraged by me even asking this question, but I am for real. The official messaging here in the UK has recently removed the vague suggestion that being vaccinated protects others. If you bring out the usual line that "being vaccinated stops you having such bad symptoms and thus passing it on to others", then surely that means I would have a higher chance of being asymptomatic if I do still catch Covid, and thus not knowing if I am putting others at risk? I suppose you might tell me that's why I need to also regularly test, but then why get vaccinated? >I'm sorry for them - and I hope they recover - but they should be considered a hero. I think they would find your gung-ho attitude deeply upsetting, especially when they are of an age where the personal protection offered by the vaccine is significantly more relevant than any supposed benefit to others.
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No, you're just throwing around disinformation. Anecdotes aside, I think your cousin made the right decision to get the vaccine. The virus would have likely done the same and worse. Unless they could have avoided it forever, the choices would be the vax or a full assault by a live replicating virus. 700,000 people have died in the US now from it. Better to live.

antiSingularity 5y ago
And who gets to define my anecdote as "disinformation"? Surely you can't be saying that any story that runs counter to a particular given narrative must be false? (FWIW, it is completely true). How do you know the disease would be worse? This particular relative is in mental anguish, as the kind of statements that you just made are the only available opinions on whether you should get the vaccine. After 6 months of feeling like death, they are questioning the decision. ps. Are we ever going to re-set the Covid death count at the end of a year? At approx. 300k deaths per year in the US, Covid is the 3rd-biggest killer.
- noduerme 5y ago
  If there was a vaccine for cancer, it wouldn't matter to anyone else if you got it. This is a virus. It's a public sacrifice. As brutal as it sounds, you and I and everyone we know had to line up against a wall, and some people were going to take a bullet for the team. I went in prepared to do that, rather than deluding myself that the virus wasn't real or that it was avoidable. When my uncles were in the Navy, they got pumped full of everything at once through an airgun in the bicep. This is jury duty, voting, your DMV test and your military service rolled into one. It's the price of living in an advanced society. I'm sorry for them - and I hope they recover - but they should be considered a hero. This is simply under the circumstances the only right thing to do.
  - antiSingularity 5y ago
    And how exactly does me getting vaccinated protect someone else? I understand that you will probably be outraged by me even asking this question, but I am for real. The official messaging here in the UK has recently removed the vague suggestion that being vaccinated protects others. If you bring out the usual line that "being vaccinated stops you having such bad symptoms and thus passing it on to others", then surely that means I would have a higher chance of being asymptomatic if I do still catch Covid, and thus not knowing if I am putting others at risk? I suppose you might tell me that's why I need to also regularly test, but then why get vaccinated? >I'm sorry for them - and I hope they recover - but they should be considered a hero. I think they would find your gung-ho attitude deeply upsetting, especially when they are of an age where the personal protection offered by the vaccine is significantly more relevant than any supposed benefit to others.
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