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I can imagine the advertising value of watching for depression and cognitive decline. In the latter case, you could probably sell a dozen extended warranties f

I can imagine the advertising value of watching for depression and cognitive decline. In the latter case, you could probably sell a dozen extended warranties for the same item. EZ prediction of the day. Combine depression, cognitive decline, anger, etc. values against a database of gun owners (picked up through registration, social media posts, ATF background checks, etc.). Send police to house when some crossover point is hit. It's for the children.

BoorishBears 5y ago
Or maybe detect people who might be unstable through paranoid ramblings about how Apple is out to get gun owners before they can "take a stand against the tyranny". Probably less work and marginally more fruitful.
- ArchStanton 5y ago
  I'll improve that... ...detect people who might be unstable through paranoid ramblings about how Apple is out to _fill_in_the_blank_. The spice must flow to keep those stock options in Cupertino rising.
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    Why do I get the impression this is an attempt at being mysterious because "can't openly state something that's wrongthink!" When really no one would consider what you're vaguely implying "wrongthink" or inflammatory at all. They'd probably just consider it "normal wrong" and poorly supported by reality...
    - ArchStanton 5y ago
      No mystery. You can simply make the claim that Apple would detect anything that's anti-Apple. Why not? It isn't like that the company has anything approaching morality, aside from perhaps the occasional craziness from the worker-drones there.
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        It's too early for this. Or too late. I don't know. Not going to indulge this kind of "heavy on paranoia light on details" exchange where everything needs to be teased out. - Or maybe I should just take what you're saying at face value? That your assertion is Apple wants to monitor everything that everyone does that might hurt them then... arrest them with their police force? Shoot them with their army? Sic the police on them? Or maybe that's what Boston Robotics is for, mass produce their own army... hmmm. Because if that's your fear, and it's a genuine fear that causes you distress, I implore you to seek a medical professional.
        dang 5y ago
        Please don't cross into internet psychiatric diagnosis - it never does any good and is basically a form of personal attack, even if you didn't intend it that way. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=%22internet%20psychiatric%20diagnosis%22 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=a... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
lostlogin 5y ago
We need a name for the equivalent of Godwin’s Law for the hypothetical situation which gets stretched then ends with ‘they want to take my guns’.
- sofixa 5y ago
  Absolutely agree. lostlogin's law?
bserge 5y ago
Funny how that sounds more plausible than them selling mental healthcare services. Those are extremely hard to get. Have a doctor actually help you? Nah, police raid. I'm speaking as a second class European with experience in Belgium, UK and Germany.
- laurent92 5y ago
  Same. Who needs an app to tell you that you’re depressed? Memes are writing themselves. Imagine your government mandating stay-home orders, having lost most friends, craving Youtube content, ruminating about previous experiences, and your phone popping up a message saying “That’s it. You’re suicidal. Here are friends you can call.” and the list shows up empty. Or there’s your ex, the local pizza service and your late parents. When people are depressed, they tend to know it. (but the sibling comments say it may be good to point a maniac episode for a bipolar person).
sneak 5y ago
This is precisely why there isn't a central database of gun owners in the USA. Some states have even banned the keeping of identifying data in purchase records at the individual stores, too.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  Never mind all the states that allow private transfer without a FFL.
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BoorishBears 5y ago

Or maybe detect people who might be unstable through paranoid ramblings about how Apple is out to get gun owners before they can "take a stand against the tyranny". Probably less work and marginally more fruitful.

ArchStanton 5y ago
I'll improve that... ...detect people who might be unstable through paranoid ramblings about how Apple is out to _fill_in_the_blank_. The spice must flow to keep those stock options in Cupertino rising.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  Why do I get the impression this is an attempt at being mysterious because "can't openly state something that's wrongthink!" When really no one would consider what you're vaguely implying "wrongthink" or inflammatory at all. They'd probably just consider it "normal wrong" and poorly supported by reality...
  - ArchStanton 5y ago
    No mystery. You can simply make the claim that Apple would detect anything that's anti-Apple. Why not? It isn't like that the company has anything approaching morality, aside from perhaps the occasional craziness from the worker-drones there.
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      It's too early for this. Or too late. I don't know. Not going to indulge this kind of "heavy on paranoia light on details" exchange where everything needs to be teased out. - Or maybe I should just take what you're saying at face value? That your assertion is Apple wants to monitor everything that everyone does that might hurt them then... arrest them with their police force? Shoot them with their army? Sic the police on them? Or maybe that's what Boston Robotics is for, mass produce their own army... hmmm. Because if that's your fear, and it's a genuine fear that causes you distress, I implore you to seek a medical professional.
      - dang 5y ago
        Please don't cross into internet psychiatric diagnosis - it never does any good and is basically a form of personal attack, even if you didn't intend it that way. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=%22internet%20psychiatric%20diagnosis%22 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&dateRange=a... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

lostlogin 5y ago

We need a name for the equivalent of Godwin’s Law for the hypothetical situation which gets stretched then ends with ‘they want to take my guns’.

sofixa 5y ago
Absolutely agree. lostlogin's law?

bserge 5y ago

Funny how that sounds more plausible than them selling mental healthcare services. Those are extremely hard to get. Have a doctor actually help you? Nah, police raid. I'm speaking as a second class European with experience in Belgium, UK and Germany.

laurent92 5y ago
Same. Who needs an app to tell you that you’re depressed? Memes are writing themselves. Imagine your government mandating stay-home orders, having lost most friends, craving Youtube content, ruminating about previous experiences, and your phone popping up a message saying “That’s it. You’re suicidal. Here are friends you can call.” and the list shows up empty. Or there’s your ex, the local pizza service and your late parents. When people are depressed, they tend to know it. (but the sibling comments say it may be good to point a maniac episode for a bipolar person).

sneak 5y ago

This is precisely why there isn't a central database of gun owners in the USA. Some states have even banned the keeping of identifying data in purchase records at the individual stores, too.

ashtonkem 5y ago
Never mind all the states that allow private transfer without a FFL.

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