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How are thermals though? My xps 13 with 2 fans can get hot enough to be unconfortable, so i can't imagine how it will be with a single fan

by PolCPP 5y ago

resonious 5y ago
I really wish people talked about this stuff more when it comes to laptops. Hot temps and loud fans are a super turn-off for me. I'm willing to compromise performance for a quieter, cooler runtime, but usually all I can find out about a laptop is its processor clock speed and a horribly inaccurate battery life estimate.
- spuz 5y ago
  Most of the laptops reviewed by Linus Tech Tips consider thermals and fan noise.
- bodge5000 5y ago
  Loud fans and hot temps are fine for me, in isolation. But knowing those hot temps (and to a degree those loud fans) are slowly killing my laptop, and likely very quickly killing my battery, much faster than you'd imagine, yeh, it suddenly becomes a bigger priority. For me, I've never found a laptop as good as the older thinkpads at handling temps.
- deergomoo 5y ago
  I had a 16" MacBook Pro that was so hot and loud all the time that I just couldn't stand it anymore and sold it to buy an M1 MacBook Air, which thankfully doesn't even have a fan. I don't understand how it didn't come up in any reviews, because you don't have to push it super hard to make it happen.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Computer thermals are weird. You can ultimately choose between a gimped device that stays cool under load or a spectacularly hot, dynamically clocked CPU. I normally cut the clock speed of my CPU in half with any new laptop, since I'm really only going to use it for text editing/SSH. That alone is good enough to lock it below 40c, but there are other ways to achieve a similar effect.
  - leshow 5y ago
    on x86 at least
- hansel_der 5y ago
  with most laptops one can set the fanspeed via software and let the built-in thermal throttling keep the machine from melting down. peak performance is fine, but sustained speed takes quite a hit.
camgunz 5y ago
I rely on notebookcheck [1] for stuff like this--best notebook reviews I've ever read. If you go down to Emissions there's a "Temperature" subsection with pretty detailed info. [1]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-5-Review-If-Microsoft-Made-A-Repairable-Surface-Laptop-This-Would-Be-It.551850.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-5-Review-I...

How are thermals though? My xps 13 with 2 fans can get hot enough to be unconfortable, so i can't imagine how it will be with a single fan

by PolCPP 5y ago

How are thermals though? My xps 13 with 2 fans can get hot enough to be unconfortable, so i can't imagine how it will be with a single fan

resonious 5y ago

I really wish people talked about this stuff more when it comes to laptops. Hot temps and loud fans are a super turn-off for me. I'm willing to compromise performance for a quieter, cooler runtime, but usually all I can find out about a laptop is its processor clock speed and a horribly inaccurate battery life estimate.

spuz 5y ago
Most of the laptops reviewed by Linus Tech Tips consider thermals and fan noise.
bodge5000 5y ago
Loud fans and hot temps are fine for me, in isolation. But knowing those hot temps (and to a degree those loud fans) are slowly killing my laptop, and likely very quickly killing my battery, much faster than you'd imagine, yeh, it suddenly becomes a bigger priority. For me, I've never found a laptop as good as the older thinkpads at handling temps.
deergomoo 5y ago
I had a 16" MacBook Pro that was so hot and loud all the time that I just couldn't stand it anymore and sold it to buy an M1 MacBook Air, which thankfully doesn't even have a fan. I don't understand how it didn't come up in any reviews, because you don't have to push it super hard to make it happen.
smoldesu 5y ago
Computer thermals are weird. You can ultimately choose between a gimped device that stays cool under load or a spectacularly hot, dynamically clocked CPU. I normally cut the clock speed of my CPU in half with any new laptop, since I'm really only going to use it for text editing/SSH. That alone is good enough to lock it below 40c, but there are other ways to achieve a similar effect.
- leshow 5y ago
  on x86 at least
hansel_der 5y ago
with most laptops one can set the fanspeed via software and let the built-in thermal throttling keep the machine from melting down. peak performance is fine, but sustained speed takes quite a hit.

camgunz 5y ago

I rely on notebookcheck [1] for stuff like this--best notebook reviews I've ever read. If you go down to Emissions there's a "Temperature" subsection with pretty detailed info. [1]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-5-Review-If-Microsoft-Made-A-Repairable-Surface-Laptop-This-Would-Be-It.551850.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Framework-Laptop-13-5-Review-I...