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Anecdotally, I decided not to get the vaccine. Three weeks ago, my friend who had gotten the vaccine got Covid, and then gave it to me. (He also beat me in go
by bwship 5y ago
Anecdotally, I decided not to get the vaccine. Three weeks ago, my friend who had gotten the vaccine got Covid, and then gave it to me. (He also beat me in golf that day which says a lot more about my golf than his ability to play while sick). But anyway, we both lost our sense of taste and smell, had fevers, were achy, him up until about a week ago, me up until a couple of days ago. So, perhaps he would have had an even tougher go at it had he not been vaccinated, but to me it seems we both suffered just about identical outcomes.
- spywaregorilla 5y agoI roll a six sided die. You roll a 20 sided die. We both get a 4. I guess they're the same.
- betwixthewires 5y agoExcept the 6 and 20 numbers are ones you just made up to support your position and make yourself feel warm inside but this fact just makes your entire statement meaningless and at the center of your grin at your own wit is an empty, hollow nothing.
- cthalupa 5y agoHis point was that two processes can result in the same outcome when dependent on more factors than just the quality of the process. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't use the better process, just that it does not guarantee a better outcome. Only a better chance of a better outcome. Though, based on the actual data we have, his numbers aren't bad for cases, and would need to be shifted to a dice with a lot more sides than a d20 for hospitalizations and deaths. https://www.fastcompany.com/90675524/delta-variant-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-this-new-cdc-chart-shows-how-well-covid-vaccines-work https://www.fastcompany.com/90675524/delta-variant-vaccinate...
- bwship 5y agoMy dice used my immune system. Yours used whatever the f they decided to inject into you. Looks like I won!
- spywaregorilla 5y agoIt is upsetting to me that you appear to believe vaccines replace the role of your immune system.
- bwship 5y agoThe whole point of the original comment was that 1. someone with the vaccine and someone without both had an identical reaction to the virus and 2. just because everyone on the pro-vaccine side makes claims that this vaccine is safe, there are no long-term studies on it. So my point about my immune system was that yes I was willing to roll the dice and deal with the virus when/if it came to me. And I did. I will get downvoted for this on this particular site, because it is way more skewed to people that feel that the vaccine is a safe and effective measure. But, I didn't roll a 6 sided die while my friend rolled a 20 sided die.
- spywaregorilla 5y agoThere are no long term studies on COVID. But what informatrion we do have suggests it can cause prolonged damage. Including erectile dysfunction.
- betwixthewires 5y agoDon't threaten me with a good time.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoDamn near (i.e. I no of no exceptions but I'm hedging my bets against the nit-pickers) every respiratory disease comes with a litany of possible long term effects that tend to mostly affect the people with the worst cases. Covid doesn't yet seem to be particularly special thus far in terms of likelihood or severity of long term effects. If you can't breath stuff in your body breaks. Water is wet. More news at 11.
- bigbob2 5y agoAnecdotally, the CEO of my company just died of Covid.
- bwship 5y agoAnecdotally, my uncle who was otherwise healthy died months after getting the jab. And my sister's husband came down with some major fatigue/fever issues recently after the jab. So again, I took my chances based on the facts I had, yet I will get downvoted because they aren't in lock step with most of HN.
- bigbob2 5y agoApparently my comment was also not in lock step as you say. I'm not questioning your decision but if we're providing anecdotal data points then we should provide as many as possible.
- throwaway827171 5y agoSo, at first you claimed you didn't want to get the vaccine because a friend got it and still got sick. Now you claimed your uncle died from it and your sister's husband got serious sick from it. I wonder why you didn't mention that at first to make your point, instead of using the much less serious case about your friend. Make me skeptical about everything you said.
- bwship 5y agoNo, it wasn't that I didn't want to get the vaccine because my friend got sick. The fact was he had the vaccine, and got me sick and we both had as close to the exact same experience during the sickness. The second parts about my uncle and my sister's husband I can't really prove they are related to the vaccine, but were just in response to the previous commenters. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
- thehappypm 5y agoGiven the R0-value of Covid, the likelihood is fairly high that you spread the virus to other people. Your amazingly impressive immune system would have absolutely crushed the virus with the help of a vaccine, and perhaps you would have had 0 symptoms and been totally non-contagious. Someone could be in a hospital bed because of your decision. Food for thought.
- noobly 5y agoLast I checked, it's unknown how much (if at all) the vaccine reduces spread.