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I don't understand how you could read the parent comment and decide that it's "blaming" teen girls, unless you are deliberately arguing in bad faith. Teenage g
by J-dawg 5y ago
I don't understand how you could read the parent comment and decide that it's "blaming" teen girls, unless you are deliberately arguing in bad faith.
Teenage girls are predisposed to behave in the way described, and Facebook/Instagram is profiting by exploiting that. Nothing about the explanation above is blaming them. If anything the comment makes a stronger case for Facebook's actions being immoral.
- jhardy54 5y ago> Teenage girls are predisposed to behave in the way described, and Facebook/Instagram is profiting by exploiting that. Has this been studied, or are we taking an arbitrary thought experiment as a foundational axiom?
- revel 5y agoFacebook studied it internally and covered it up in congressional testimony. That's literally what the article is about
- mrgreenfur 5y agoAgreed. SOME may behave this way, but without more info who are we to say that they "are predisposed" in general. Teenage years are very hard for tons of reasons mentioned above and the way people handle those stresses comes down to tons of factors, support systems, upbringing, context, culture, etc. Facebook is immorally exploiting that stress.
- remarkEon 5y agoIt’s kind of amazing to me that an observation that anyone could make based on their experience as a human living on planet earth gets discounted because there isn’t some peer reviewed study from Harvard or whatever that confirms the observation. Young girls are mean to each other, that’s a fact. We don’t need an army of data scientists to “look into it”.
- zepto 5y ago> Young girls are mean to each other, that’s a fact. In all societies across time? Or just in American High schools and on Instagram?
- remarkEon 5y agoLemme get Yale on the phone, or better yet Oxford. Maybe they can provide us an answer to the question of “are young girls mean to each other, yes or no”.
- zepto 5y agoHow is this sarcastic answer helpful? As far as I can see you have provided no useful information. If you don’t think universities are the right people to help with this question, who would you recommend to answer it? You said: “Young girls are mean to each other, that’s a fact.” How do you know this fact?
- remarkEon 5y ago> How is this sarcastic answer helpful? It’s helpful because it’s pointing out how absurd it is to constantly demand “data” to verify rudimentary observations of human nature. For whatever reason, and maybe it’s because of tech being so data obsessed, you can make a claim on this website as benign as “look both ways before crossing the street” and inevitably someone will want to see a “peer reviewed” study that says looking both ways before crossing the street “affects the outcome variable” of not getting hit by a car. > If you don’t think universities are the right people to help with this question, who would you recommend to answer it? Your mother, or your sister if you have one. >How do you know this fact? My name is remarkEon and I went to middle and high school in the United States on a planet I call Earth.
- zepto 5y ago>>> Young girls are mean to each other, that’s a fact. >>> In all societies across time? Or just in American High schools and on Instagram? >> How do you know this fact? >My name is remarkEon and I went to middle and high school in the United States on a planet I call Earth. Ok, so you think your American High school experience gives you insight into all societies across time. Understood. Your answers make sense now. Thanks for answering.
- mbesto 5y ago> Why are young girls so awful to each other? I don't think it's unreasonable to suspect that is has to do with "hormones," new emotions, and new social awareness, etc. But, it's also the case that from a strictly evolutionary perspective, young girls are are the most fertile and therefore the most desirable. How could the words "I don't think it's unreasonable to suspect..." not be considered blaming them? There is definitely some nuance here (I don't think the parent comment is hard-lining to say that the victims here are 100% to blame), but they are most certainly associating some level of blame to teens and their inherent "predisposed" behavior as you say.