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What "concerns"? Again you have stated and quoted nothing other than vague "it's the structure" or allusions to "too much power". What about the structure? What

What "concerns"? Again you have stated and quoted nothing other than vague "it's the structure" or allusions to "too much power". What about the structure? What power are you alluding to? What are your concerns, exactly? Do you even have any, or are you just being dramatic about "big company bad"?

yannoninator 5y ago
> What are your concerns, exactly? Do you even have any, or are you just being dramatic about "big company bad"? Where did I say "big company bad"?, I'm not against them sponsoring a project, they shouldn't get the opportunity to buy a board seat, which is what Rust's structure allows. Hence why, it's appearing that Rust isn't being led by the community. Before you continue to gaslight me again, you can have companies (big ones) that sponsor a project/foundation and not be given a board seat.
- secuthro22 5y ago
  You've replied yet again without actually stating what your concerns are. Lol "gaslighting". Ok.
  - yannoninator 5y ago
    So you're saying there isn't an issue with the Rust foundation's governance then? Now I'm assuming you just jumped into the comments without understanding anything no? EDIT: > We shouldn't be giving corporations too much power by letting them buy board seats in a foundation to steer the language, in this case Rust. @stale2002 I already mentioned this issue. However the user @secuthro22 continued trolling further with: "WhAT cONCerns?"
    - secuthro22 5y ago
      I wouldn't know. There might be, which is why I've asked you multiple times to explain the issue to me and yet you have neglected to do so.
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      - CRConrad 5y ago
        If you can't understand something on your own, you might be grateful for an explanation, but nobody actually owes you one.
        stale2002 5y ago
        The problem is that other people are making vague claims, without actually substantiating them. If someone makes vague claims like that, they deserve to be dismissed. It is on you to state your concerns clearly, not on other people to read between the lines.
        CRConrad 5y ago
        One man's "having to read between the lines" is another's "it's all there in black on white".
        stale2002 5y ago
        > One man's "having to read between the lines" Well apparently there are a whole lot of people , in this thread who agree with me, that this was all pretty unclear. If most people are unable to understand you or your arguments, that is the fault of the communicator, for being so bad at communicating.
        CRConrad 5y ago
        > If most people are unable to understand you or your arguments, that is the fault of the communicator, for being so bad at communicating. Sure. But is this really about "most people" -- or just a (very) vocal minority that doesn't (want to) understand? It's not like there are thousands of people asking for clarification; I make it three, including you. I'm just saying that at least to me, >>> Still don't know why we should let these big tech companies have board seats on programming language foundations for them to have the power to do this. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28513316 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28513316 ] and, at the latest, >>> they shouldn't get the opportunity to buy a board seat, which is what Rust's structure allows. Hence why, it's appearing that Rust isn't being led by the community. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514247 ] felt perfectly clear. That's yanonninator's [sp?] whole beef, right there (twice over), AFAICS. What's not to understand about that?
    - stale2002 5y ago
      Instead of going through all of what you just did here, why didn't you just directly state what the problem was, when someone asked? That would be way easier. Instead of writing a paragraph, I don't know, attacking someone for not reading past threads or comments, you could just give a single sentence, that describes the issue. That would be way faster, and then everyone is happy.

yannoninator 5y ago

> What are your concerns, exactly? Do you even have any, or are you just being dramatic about "big company bad"? Where did I say "big company bad"?, I'm not against them sponsoring a project, they shouldn't get the opportunity to buy a board seat, which is what Rust's structure allows. Hence why, it's appearing that Rust isn't being led by the community. Before you continue to gaslight me again, you can have companies (big ones) that sponsor a project/foundation and not be given a board seat.

secuthro22 5y ago
You've replied yet again without actually stating what your concerns are. Lol "gaslighting". Ok.
- yannoninator 5y ago
  So you're saying there isn't an issue with the Rust foundation's governance then? Now I'm assuming you just jumped into the comments without understanding anything no? EDIT: > We shouldn't be giving corporations too much power by letting them buy board seats in a foundation to steer the language, in this case Rust. @stale2002 I already mentioned this issue. However the user @secuthro22 continued trolling further with: "WhAT cONCerns?"
  - secuthro22 5y ago
    I wouldn't know. There might be, which is why I've asked you multiple times to explain the issue to me and yet you have neglected to do so.
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    - CRConrad 5y ago
      If you can't understand something on your own, you might be grateful for an explanation, but nobody actually owes you one.
      - stale2002 5y ago
        The problem is that other people are making vague claims, without actually substantiating them. If someone makes vague claims like that, they deserve to be dismissed. It is on you to state your concerns clearly, not on other people to read between the lines.
        CRConrad 5y ago
        One man's "having to read between the lines" is another's "it's all there in black on white".
        stale2002 5y ago
        > One man's "having to read between the lines" Well apparently there are a whole lot of people , in this thread who agree with me, that this was all pretty unclear. If most people are unable to understand you or your arguments, that is the fault of the communicator, for being so bad at communicating.
        CRConrad 5y ago
        > If most people are unable to understand you or your arguments, that is the fault of the communicator, for being so bad at communicating. Sure. But is this really about "most people" -- or just a (very) vocal minority that doesn't (want to) understand? It's not like there are thousands of people asking for clarification; I make it three, including you. I'm just saying that at least to me, >>> Still don't know why we should let these big tech companies have board seats on programming language foundations for them to have the power to do this. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28513316 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28513316 ] and, at the latest, >>> they shouldn't get the opportunity to buy a board seat, which is what Rust's structure allows. Hence why, it's appearing that Rust isn't being led by the community. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28514247 ] felt perfectly clear. That's yanonninator's [sp?] whole beef, right there (twice over), AFAICS. What's not to understand about that?
  - stale2002 5y ago
    Instead of going through all of what you just did here, why didn't you just directly state what the problem was, when someone asked? That would be way easier. Instead of writing a paragraph, I don't know, attacking someone for not reading past threads or comments, you could just give a single sentence, that describes the issue. That would be way faster, and then everyone is happy.