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What is the issue with Mozilla being the patron of Rust? They are managing the Firefox project well. Would it be better if Rust was a part of the Apache founda

What is the issue with Mozilla being the patron of Rust? They are managing the Firefox project well. Would it be better if Rust was a part of the Apache foundation?

httpsterio 5y ago
The issue was with Mozilla bring the only patron. Also, your sentimrnt about Firefox os not shared by many here.
MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
> They are managing the Firefox project well. Ahem.
turbinerneiter 5y ago
Other problem is being the _sole_ Patreon. Many people think that the best thing for projects like this is to have as many entities involved as possible. Anything that is controlled by single entity is bound to forget the needs of others. For example: neither Mozilla nor Amazon might have Embedded Systems as a core interest, so they will forget about it and might accidently make decisions that ate bad for this use cases. If you also have ARM, Microcontroller vendors and so on on board, they will make sure that this topic isn't overlooked.
- thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
  >> Anything that is controlled by single entity is bound to forget the needs of others. That is perhaps the biggest concern. When a large tech company controls governance, their needs and priorities come first. We have seen similar concerns with other programming languages in the past: Java (Sun / Oracle), Go (Google), Swift (Apple). Exclusive or dominant control is not necessarily bad (depends on how transparently the governance process runs and who is involved), but it can severely limit the programming language community's effect and leave the needs of some groups unfulfilled.
Zababa 5y ago
I don't agree at all that they are managing the Firefox project well. See the evolution of Firefox's market share over the last decade.
ncmncm 5y ago
Apache is where projects go to die. So, probably not.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > Apache is where projects go to die. I thought that was CA? Oh wait, no, that's where they go after they're dead.

What is the issue with Mozilla being the patron of Rust? They are managing the Firefox project well. Would it be better if Rust was a part of the Apache foundation?

httpsterio 5y ago

The issue was with Mozilla bring the only patron. Also, your sentimrnt about Firefox os not shared by many here.

MrBuddyCasino 5y ago

> They are managing the Firefox project well. Ahem.

turbinerneiter 5y ago

Other problem is being the _sole_ Patreon. Many people think that the best thing for projects like this is to have as many entities involved as possible. Anything that is controlled by single entity is bound to forget the needs of others. For example: neither Mozilla nor Amazon might have Embedded Systems as a core interest, so they will forget about it and might accidently make decisions that ate bad for this use cases. If you also have ARM, Microcontroller vendors and so on on board, they will make sure that this topic isn't overlooked.

thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
>> Anything that is controlled by single entity is bound to forget the needs of others. That is perhaps the biggest concern. When a large tech company controls governance, their needs and priorities come first. We have seen similar concerns with other programming languages in the past: Java (Sun / Oracle), Go (Google), Swift (Apple). Exclusive or dominant control is not necessarily bad (depends on how transparently the governance process runs and who is involved), but it can severely limit the programming language community's effect and leave the needs of some groups unfulfilled.

Zababa 5y ago

I don't agree at all that they are managing the Firefox project well. See the evolution of Firefox's market share over the last decade.

ncmncm 5y ago

Apache is where projects go to die. So, probably not.

CRConrad 5y ago
> Apache is where projects go to die. I thought that was CA? Oh wait, no, that's where they go after they're dead.