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Idaho has already implemented crisis standards of care: https://healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/news/idaho-activates-crisis-standards-care-north-idaho-due-surge-cov

by ADSSDA 5y ago

Idaho has already implemented crisis standards of care: https://healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/news/idaho-activates-crisis-standards-care-north-idaho-due-surge-covid-19-patients-requiring https://healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/news/idaho-activates-cris... And is absolutely overwhelmed. It seems incredibly disingenuous to only consider some random state that's doing well and ignore those doing poorly.

13years 5y ago
Idaho doesn't seem to be in trouble based on the capacity dashboard. https://rationalground.com/hospital-and-icu-capacity-dashboards/ https://rationalground.com/hospital-and-icu-capacity-dashboa... Also, if you go back in look for headlines of hospitals being overwhelmed, you will see they exist for the flu for almost every year as well. https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/01/24/Hospitals-overwhelmed-by-influx-of-flu-patients/8171516800130/ https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/01/24/Hospitals-overwhe...
- ADSSDA 5y ago
  You should use the actual state's dashboard: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/idaho.division.of.public.health/viz/DPHIdahoCOVID-19Dashboard/Home https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/idaho.division.of.pub... And Idaho is absolutely overwhelmed. In past flu seasons they have not moved to crisis standards of care, I don't even see Idaho in the article you linked so I'm not sure what relevance it has here. Are you claiming the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare is unaware of their own ICU utilization status?
  - 13years 5y ago
    Those numbers seem to match the numbers from the site I posted. The rational ground site also shows the numbers in relation to capacity. You can filter by state. Based on the numbers and your original post, it doesn't seem to be a statewide issue. It is a localized issue of what seems an area covered by 10 hospitals. The relevance is that hospitals having issues with capacity is not beyond the realm of normal.
    - ADSSDA 5y ago
      The site you posted only goes to Aug 27th, which is hopelessly outdated for a rapidly deteriorating situation. The actual information from the Idaho Division of Public Health indicates 10 ICU beds staffed and available across the entire state as of yesterday. This is after activating the national guard to assist. If that's not a crisis, I don't know what is. You seem caught up in a narrative that this is not real, I urge you to consider the facts on the ground rather than fit things to your political views.
      - 13years 5y ago
        I'm caught up in the narrative of looking at all the data and comparing with relevant perspectives. Thanks for yours and your input.

by ADSSDA 5y ago

13years 5y ago

Idaho doesn't seem to be in trouble based on the capacity dashboard. https://rationalground.com/hospital-and-icu-capacity-dashboards/ https://rationalground.com/hospital-and-icu-capacity-dashboa... Also, if you go back in look for headlines of hospitals being overwhelmed, you will see they exist for the flu for almost every year as well. https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/01/24/Hospitals-overwhelmed-by-influx-of-flu-patients/8171516800130/ https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/01/24/Hospitals-overwhe...

ADSSDA 5y ago
You should use the actual state's dashboard: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/idaho.division.of.public.health/viz/DPHIdahoCOVID-19Dashboard/Home https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/idaho.division.of.pub... And Idaho is absolutely overwhelmed. In past flu seasons they have not moved to crisis standards of care, I don't even see Idaho in the article you linked so I'm not sure what relevance it has here. Are you claiming the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare is unaware of their own ICU utilization status?
- 13years 5y ago
  Those numbers seem to match the numbers from the site I posted. The rational ground site also shows the numbers in relation to capacity. You can filter by state. Based on the numbers and your original post, it doesn't seem to be a statewide issue. It is a localized issue of what seems an area covered by 10 hospitals. The relevance is that hospitals having issues with capacity is not beyond the realm of normal.
  - ADSSDA 5y ago
    The site you posted only goes to Aug 27th, which is hopelessly outdated for a rapidly deteriorating situation. The actual information from the Idaho Division of Public Health indicates 10 ICU beds staffed and available across the entire state as of yesterday. This is after activating the national guard to assist. If that's not a crisis, I don't know what is. You seem caught up in a narrative that this is not real, I urge you to consider the facts on the ground rather than fit things to your political views.
    - 13years 5y ago
      I'm caught up in the narrative of looking at all the data and comparing with relevant perspectives. Thanks for yours and your input.