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Well, obviously China is suspected of having let Covid-19 escape, so of course this is first and foremost about restrictions that affect China.. What are you g
by corty 5y ago
Well, obviously China is suspected of having let Covid-19 escape, so of course this is first and foremost about restrictions that affect China..
What are you getting at?
Also, of course there are accidents in any lab, most of them just reportable incidents. Why are there almost no reportable incidents from Chinese labs? Usually because either they are not using those labs (unlikely) or because they don't do incident analysis and reporting. That the list contains almost no incidents from China means quite the opposite of what you are suggesting: It means that China regularly covers up even very small mishaps such as a mislabeled sample of something relatively harmless. Just stuff that cannot be covered up will be reported (such as the few thousand people infected with Brucella somewhere...)
Does that mean that all other labs are safe? Certainly not, and I'd suggest you read my other comments about improving safety. But quarantining a researcher after a needle puncture is the right thing to do. Recognizing and reporting the escape of lab animals is a sign of there being at least some amount of oversight. China quite obviously doesn't have that, because noone in their right mind will believe that a lab never has a reportable incident.
So yes, I'd suggest starting at the most unsafe labs, where quite probably Covid-19 originated, and improving those, e.g. by closing them. And rebuilding them somewhere safer, to a far higher standard. Same for the rest of the world's labs, of course, but priority is on those having started global pandemics in the past...
- bigcorp-slave 5y agoIt’s just whataboutism. The person you’re responding to has a long post history defending China and shitting on the US.
- throwaway210222 5y agoNonsense. What I am getting at is that if you want any future that involves outsiders regularly inspecting Chinese bio-laboratories, then you had better be prepared for outsiders (including possibly Chinese) to inspect yours. Otherwise they will say no. And that will be the end of it. This purile whataboutism has to stop.
- bigcorp-slave 5y agoYour comments here make the agenda you are pushing clear. You are now literally performing whataboutism on the topic of whataboutism, it is incredible to witness. There is no future where China submits to inspections in good faith. China cannot even do regular business in good faith. The CCP is an underhanded and evil regime that subjugates and oppresses its billion people and is trying desperately to subjugate and oppress the entire world. I feel sorry for its advocates, being so indoctrinated that they are blind to the fact that they are helping this tide of darkness slowly engulf the planet. And I while I celebrate the lifting of hundreds of millions of Chinese people from horrifying poverty, I pity them for being trapped under that horrifying autocratic regime.
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- tim333 5y agoAlso the research mentioned in the article was commissioned and funded by the US, and covered up by US bodies until they were forced by a court to release documents. Any action against dangerous research needs to be global really.