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It would be interesting to see the numbers on being overweight vs vaccinated, and seeing which is more correlated with covid severity.

_drimzy 5y ago
So you are going on and on about a hypothesis without any backing numbers, while completely ignoring provided evidence on how the unvaccinated is more likely to end up in ICUs? Get off your high horse and do your fucking part. People are dying of Covid19, and a lot of people who survive end up with permanent disabilites, while you engage in mental gymnastics with your hypotheticals!
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- tommymachine 5y ago
  Apparently writing one sentence is now "going on and on". It's not mental gymnastics to point out the information overload on one side of this issue, which makes absolutely no medical or scientific sense, yet makes a ton of profit "cents".
- tommymachine 5y ago
  I've already done my part by contracting and beating the virus you're deathly afraid of. I have more powerful immunity than anyone who's taken any of those shots. I don't have to ponder about the numbers on that one.
  - kelnos 5y ago
    If that's the opinion of a reputable medical professional that you've personally talked to, then sure, great, good for you. If you're basing this on random things you've read on the internet... well, kinda a shame you're basing health decisions on that. Given the fact that you've made an absolutist statement about immunity that doesn't track with the studies I've read, I suspect it's sadly the latter. (Natural immunity may give rise to more mature memory B-cells, which could be better than the memory B-cells you get with vaccination, but the vaccines do provoke your immune system to produce many more antibodies than found in the aftermath of natural infection. So the jury is kinda still out on this.)
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    - tommymachine 5y ago
      I hope you had a reputable doctor interpret those studies for you in person. I read on CNN.com that it can be dangerous to do online research and think for yourself. I’m not sure if I should believe it though, since a reputable medical professional didn’t read it to me in person. In fact, even reading your comment, I’m not at liberty to reply, since a reputable medical professional didn’t read it to me, and I can’t be sure just what to think without a reputable medical professional telling me, in person, what I should think.
- tommymachine 5y ago
  Guess I'll just get off of my high horse and make sure big Pharma gets paid by the taxpayer for something that not only do I not need, but would weaken the immunity that I have. The state of the world is obvious from the activity on this forum. If these are supposed to be "intelligent hackers" here, god help the human race.
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kelnos 5y ago
No, it really wouldn't be. I mean, from an academic standpoint, sure, maybe that's interesting. But it really has no bearing on the truth that people should get themselves vaccinated, and not doing so puts themselves and others in danger.
- tommymachine 5y ago
  Is that statement provably true for the previously infected? (Hint: it would be more dangerous to get a shot if you’ve already had it than to not, but it won’t make Fauxi & friends any money if you don’t. Gee, I wonder why they don’t advertise that.)

_drimzy 5y ago

So you are going on and on about a hypothesis without any backing numbers, while completely ignoring provided evidence on how the unvaccinated is more likely to end up in ICUs? Get off your high horse and do your fucking part. People are dying of Covid19, and a lot of people who survive end up with permanent disabilites, while you engage in mental gymnastics with your hypotheticals!

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tommymachine 5y ago
Apparently writing one sentence is now "going on and on". It's not mental gymnastics to point out the information overload on one side of this issue, which makes absolutely no medical or scientific sense, yet makes a ton of profit "cents".
tommymachine 5y ago
I've already done my part by contracting and beating the virus you're deathly afraid of. I have more powerful immunity than anyone who's taken any of those shots. I don't have to ponder about the numbers on that one.
- kelnos 5y ago
  If that's the opinion of a reputable medical professional that you've personally talked to, then sure, great, good for you. If you're basing this on random things you've read on the internet... well, kinda a shame you're basing health decisions on that. Given the fact that you've made an absolutist statement about immunity that doesn't track with the studies I've read, I suspect it's sadly the latter. (Natural immunity may give rise to more mature memory B-cells, which could be better than the memory B-cells you get with vaccination, but the vaccines do provoke your immune system to produce many more antibodies than found in the aftermath of natural infection. So the jury is kinda still out on this.)
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  - tommymachine 5y ago
    I hope you had a reputable doctor interpret those studies for you in person. I read on CNN.com that it can be dangerous to do online research and think for yourself. I’m not sure if I should believe it though, since a reputable medical professional didn’t read it to me in person. In fact, even reading your comment, I’m not at liberty to reply, since a reputable medical professional didn’t read it to me, and I can’t be sure just what to think without a reputable medical professional telling me, in person, what I should think.
tommymachine 5y ago
Guess I'll just get off of my high horse and make sure big Pharma gets paid by the taxpayer for something that not only do I not need, but would weaken the immunity that I have. The state of the world is obvious from the activity on this forum. If these are supposed to be "intelligent hackers" here, god help the human race.
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kelnos 5y ago

No, it really wouldn't be. I mean, from an academic standpoint, sure, maybe that's interesting. But it really has no bearing on the truth that people should get themselves vaccinated, and not doing so puts themselves and others in danger.

tommymachine 5y ago
Is that statement provably true for the previously infected? (Hint: it would be more dangerous to get a shot if you’ve already had it than to not, but it won’t make Fauxi & friends any money if you don’t. Gee, I wonder why they don’t advertise that.)