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Is that actually true? According to [1], McDonalds (in 2020) was buying EUR160e6 worth of Irish beef accounting for 20% of its beef sales across Europe. It woul

Is that actually true? According to [1], McDonalds (in 2020) was buying EUR160e6 worth of Irish beef accounting for 20% of its beef sales across Europe. It would make quite a loss for them if they shipped beef into Ireland while buying that much locally and exporting it. I can't find anything that mentions this "100% Irish beef" theory. [1] https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0323/1124769-coronavirus-covid19-food-agriculture/ https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0323/1124769-corona...

chrisseaton 5y ago
> EUR160e6 Deliberately obtuse way to write €160 million. Why write that like?
- coryrc 5y ago
  Because people near Ireland use an obtuse definition of million/billion. Engineering notation is precise and unambiguous.
  - frumper 5y ago
    I'm just curious what 160 million Euro would mean in Ireland. Can you explain, please?
    - Ellipsis753 5y ago
      I think "1 million" means 1e6 everywhere. But the confusion might be because "1 billion" means 1e9 in USA but 1e12 in UK/Ireland. "1 trillion" similarly is 1e12 in USA but 1e18 in UK/Ireland. This is called the short/long scales. It's a headache.
      - frumper 5y ago
        I knew billion was different, but the commenter mentioned million specifically as having a different meaning.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    Nonsense. > The meaning of the word "million" is common to the short scale and long scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000
    - conistonwater 5y ago
      If you're going to use the scientific notation for billions, you should just use it for everything. I don't think it's so obtuse anyway, it's exactly how I'd spell that number in code.
  - genera1 5y ago
    Arguably, the short scale, not the long scale used in Ireland is obtuse. 12 zeroes for billion and 18 zeroes for trillion, 24 for quadrillion etc is 6n where n is numerical value of Latin prefix, with short scale you've got 3n+3

chrisseaton 5y ago

> EUR160e6 Deliberately obtuse way to write €160 million. Why write that like?

coryrc 5y ago
Because people near Ireland use an obtuse definition of million/billion. Engineering notation is precise and unambiguous.
- frumper 5y ago
  I'm just curious what 160 million Euro would mean in Ireland. Can you explain, please?
  - Ellipsis753 5y ago
    I think "1 million" means 1e6 everywhere. But the confusion might be because "1 billion" means 1e9 in USA but 1e12 in UK/Ireland. "1 trillion" similarly is 1e12 in USA but 1e18 in UK/Ireland. This is called the short/long scales. It's a headache.
    - frumper 5y ago
      I knew billion was different, but the commenter mentioned million specifically as having a different meaning.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  Nonsense. > The meaning of the word "million" is common to the short scale and long scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000
  - conistonwater 5y ago
    If you're going to use the scientific notation for billions, you should just use it for everything. I don't think it's so obtuse anyway, it's exactly how I'd spell that number in code.
- genera1 5y ago
  Arguably, the short scale, not the long scale used in Ireland is obtuse. 12 zeroes for billion and 18 zeroes for trillion, 24 for quadrillion etc is 6n where n is numerical value of Latin prefix, with short scale you've got 3n+3