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From my understanding it depends on how naughty your current exit node has been. Most tor exits in my experience allow creation and you just need to verify anot
by penagwin 5y ago
From my understanding it depends on how naughty your current exit node has been. Most tor exits in my experience allow creation and you just need to verify another email (just use a random burner- they only block a few. Supposedly some well behaved exits require just a captcha but I've never seen it.
- ksaj 5y agoIt would be nice if they had a tor presence so there would be no need to traverse an exit node. A lot of other privacy-forward sites do exactly this.
- testvox 5y agoThey do https://protonmail.com/tor https://protonmail.com/tor
- ksaj 5y agoThanks. I thought they must. https://protonmailrmez3lotccipshtkleegetolb73fuirgj7r4o4vfu7ozyd.onion/ https://protonmailrmez3lotccipshtkleegetolb73fuirgj7r4o4vfu7... is the URL that people should be using with Tor if they are concerned with being traced. Using Tor to access a regular web site, ie: through an exit node, is (nearly) no different than using a proxy. Just assume all exit nodes are "naughty" and do your thing accordingly.
- grappler 5y agoSad to say, Proton's onion service is for their old version. Proton has recently rolled out a new updated version of their service, and as far as I'm aware they don't offer a Tor onion service for that newer version. So Proton users who like to connect via Tor onion services have been faced with a choice of either staying on the old version of ProtonMail, or giving up on connecting via a Tor onion service. It definitely leaves the impression that they don't care much about Tor anymore, or that it's at best an afterthought for them.
- ksaj 5y agoI bet they initially configured it when Onion Routing was the new buzzword, and then lost interest when it wasn't the New Thang anymore.
- vages 5y agoI tested this, and you're right: Their Tor service runs the (in my opinion nearly as usable) older version. It's plausible that Proton does not care about their Tor service, but there may be another reason: The new version relies more on Javascript code than their old version, and a Tor user is more likely to browse with scripts disabled than a regular user. Proton may be holding back the rollout of the newer version until they have tested it more without Javascript. This is only a hypothesis, and I came up with it just now; take it for what it is.
- uncoder0 5y agoTor + Scripts is not good. You're probably right on why there isn't a newer version on their onion service.
- jakobdabo 5y agoI don't think you can use Proton without JS. You need JS for cryptography; the emails get encrypted/decrypted/signed/verified on client-side.
- vages 5y agoOf course; should have been obvious. Perhaps there is a greater reliance on scripts in the new version, but this makes it seem more likely that they've abandoned the Tor version.
- dfdub10 5y agoThey do with the premium tier.