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"wrong place" meaning "inside the capitol at all" but certainly non-violent: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/23/capitol-riot-sees-1st-sentence

• JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  “Wrong place” in my comment meant you were at the rally and went along with it. At the point you’re storming a federal building, you should know you’re breaking all manner of laws.
  • slumdev 5y ago
    How can you storm a building when the police are holding the door open for you and ushering you in?
    • krapp 5y ago
      Like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukU_aTzmF3M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukU_aTzmF3M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pIkbPvI8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pIkbPvI8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2npCYNnV18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2npCYNnV18
      • slumdev 5y ago
        And you would use the actions of a few agents provocateurs to smear the rest of the peaceful protestors who were let in by police? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF4EIReuY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF4EIReuY4
        • krapp 5y ago
          Your implication that they were "agents provocateurs to smear the rest of the peaceful protestors" is lacking evidence, where there is plenty of evidence, both in testimony and captured communications from various groups of protestors intent on committing violence and mayhem, to the contrary. At best, those "peaceful" protestors (who somehow in their naive purity managed not to be able to read the vibe of a crowd that erected a noose and gallows outside the White House, or notice the rioting, broken doors and tear gas) are still at least guilty of trespassing, and some of vandalism.
          • slumdev 5y ago
            Trespassing charges would be thrown out immediately if they were ever presented to a jury. The police exercised apparent authority when they ushered the crowd in, giving them permission and the right to enter. Vandalism would only apply to those who stole or defaced something, certainly not the majority. And neither of these charges justifies holding a political prisoner for 6+ months without trial, as the US government has done.
            • krapp 5y ago
              >Trespassing charges would be thrown out immediately if they were ever presented to a jury. The police exercised apparent authority when they ushered the crowd in, giving them permission and the right to enter. I'll let the Justice Department know they can drop all charges because slumdev from the internet has rendered their verdict. >Vandalism would only apply to those who stole or defaced something, certainly not the majority. The majority didn't enter the Capitol, and the majority haven't been charged with anything. If your assertion is that people are being arrested and charged with simply being there the actual criminal charges levied prove otherwise[0,1]. People who have been accused of committing actual crimes are being charged for those crimes. >And neither of these charges justifies holding a political prisoner for 6+ months without trial, as the US government has done. They aren't political prisoners. They aren't being persecuted for their political beliefs. Most people charged are out on bail, and the ones who aren't are the ones charged with serious crimes. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_brought_in_the_2021_United_States_Capitol_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_brought_in_th... [1]https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/six-months-january-6th-attack-capitol https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/six-months-january-6th-attac...