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The fact that discourse hijacks ctrl-f drives me insane. Sometimes I want to jump to a particular part of a thread featuring a word quickly, but discourse gets
by mishac 5y ago
The fact that discourse hijacks ctrl-f drives me insane. Sometimes I want to jump to a particular part of a thread featuring a word quickly, but discourse gets in the way.
And, though this is more subjective, I find the UI confusing. I end up browsing the github issues or even reddit for answers to questions just to avoid discourse on projects that use it (discuss.linuxcontainers.org - I'm looking at you).
- infogulch 5y agoDiscourse doesn't load the whole thread, it's loaded on demand (which is a reasonable choice for many enormous threads), so "quickly" would instead be "not at all".
- mishac 5y agowhich is why phpbb or even (god forbid) reddit is more ergonomic to use for me. If the thread is enormous, then split it into pages. And if it's not enormous, the discourse solution ends up being heavier and slower than just loading the whole discussion at once. Discourse's voodoo ends up being more annoying to me than useful, not unlike infinite scrolling. (obviously this is all subjective..I can only speak to the fact that I get annoyed by it and thus instinctively avoid discourse when I can)
- reedciccio 5y agoYou still have to go through multiple pages in phpbb and similar old forum in long threads. Same issue, usually slower than scrolling down bring the apparent end of page in discourse
- masklinn 5y ago> You still have to go through multiple pages in phpbb and similar old forum in long threads. Except for long threads the start of the thread is usually irrelevant beyond the first page or so (if even that) so you can just jump to a few pages from the end and go from there. Good forum software remains comfortable to use at million-post threads, and will render 100-post pages in a small fraction of a second. IME discourse's "infinite loading" nonsense is just slow and a mess. Go check the Rust discourse's crate of the week thread, it is a slow mess to navigate, the browser's scrollback gets hopelessly lost, and of course the in-page search is broken. That's a thread of a thousand comments, it's quite literally nothing, and for all that it completely fucks up your history to boot.
- RedShift1 5y agoIn phpBB and other traditional forum software you can just jump straight to the last page.
- infogulch 5y agoYou can jump to any point in the thread with the Discourse thread scroll bar too.
- mishac 5y agowhich goes back to the confusing UI. why should there be a different scroll bar to use than the standard one?
- bhaak 5y agoThere is no usable standard scroll bar on mobile.
- iamcreasy 5y agoNot sure if I am reading you correctly, but you have to tap on the x/y label to see the thread scroll bar on mobile.
- bhaak 5y agoI meant the standard UI scroll bar. On iOS and Android you have no usable scroll bar. It is only a location indicator (which is of course completely useless on infinite scroll pages).
- infogulch 5y ago... because it's not possible to load the whole thread at once, so the normal scroll bar will be jumping up and down as you scroll to load content on demand. And really, if you want to jump to a particular post in a long thread, the special scroll bar is easier than pages anyways because it's continuous. Really, the scroll bar IS a fresh take on the page list, except it's actually useful for navigating the thread and doesn't force readers to deal with the useless concept of numbered pages when such arbitrary divisions are no longer the primary way of navigating the thread. Once you choose to not implement explicit pages (and accept that it's not possible to load the whole thread in one request), the thread scroller is a natural consequence.
- iamcreasy 5y agoI think if you press Ctrl+f twice Discourse re-routes to browser search.
- syoc 5y agoPossibly, but it does not work as Discourse implements dynamic loading of longer threads.
- iamcreasy 5y agoI use F3 to jump to next instance of the word I am searching. (Shift + F3 goes backward)